Well said, sir.
ps: Tell me, what does a “Terrorist” look like?
Back to the matter at hand: We have a similar problem with outrageous jury awards being made in cases tried in Madison County, Illinois. I believe there’s a jusrisdiction in Alabama that’s just as generous with other people’s money. In the more egregious cases, the award has been substantially reduced by the appropriate appellate court.
[:(] [V]
Nothing wrong with being upset but if you have to include a person’s race, national origin, religion, etc. in your insults; that’s out of line, and it kinda lets people know how you really feel about Jewish people.
Oh, and the fact that you typed it out means you thought about it before you wrote it unlike talking.
Allen, your Trains.com account is locked for one week. There’s no tolerance for actions like yours. Using symbols to get around our cuss word filter doesn’t change the fact that you’re still using a swear word. Get it through your head, this isn’t a tavern.
And as for the racial slur, I can only hope you find a way to become more tolerant towards others. You might not think your actions will affect you in the future, but keep in mind that your full name is on this Web site, as well as where you live. If anyone wants to do a background check on the you in the future, that could easily find this insensitive post. You think an employer wants to hire someone who walks around spewing racial slurs?
Take this time to think about what you’ve done, and try to learn a lesson from it. The ice on which you stand in this forum has a huge crack in it.
[:(!] Bergie
I would say the ice on which he stands has been cracking up for a long time.
Allan, it’s fools like you that give railfans a bad name. Do us all a big favor and find another hobby.
IMHO this latest court case is an example of the degrading moral/logical situation in this country. Nobody’s responsible for themselves anymore. Everything should be free and they shouldn’t have to work towards anything. For cripes’ sake I bought a pack of screwdrivers the other day (an off brand) and a warning on the box advised not to stick them anywhere in the body! How sad is that!?!?
You havent met my next door neighbor…butter knives present a very real danger to the guy!
LOL! Sorry for the previous rant. It probably makes me sound older than 27 but lots of people’s attitudes are pretty disgusting to this Eagle Scout.
Nothing wrong with being a Eagle Scout…lots of leaders out there who were ones.
And yeah, the attitude that the rest of the world has to look out for one instead of the concept of looking out for oneself is pretty wasteful and sad.
Thanks Bergie, I read his post and was about to get Medievel on his A$$ 
…but read till the end. I agree theres no place for such comments…it shows either bad parenting, bad education, an incredable lack of judgement…
…or his true inner Mel Gibson!
Dittos!! I told him yesterday morning that he doesn’t need to talk to ANYONE in the manner in which he implied. I got an e-mail response from him, the contents of which I will not repeat, but it was most certainly uncalled for. And while it is not too late for him to make an apology to all of us for his behavior, I doubt that he’s man enough to do it.
CANADIANPACIF2816
Getting back to the topic, NS and Amtrak will appeal this crackpot ruling, but it will be a while going through such a busy set of courts. It’ll be settled some time around 2010. The Supreme Court ought to look this over, the last time I looked, trespassing was still a crime, minor, yes but it carries penalties, too. Then, too one is not supposed to profit from breaking the law, are they?
Snickers wow what a loon! I am ashamed he likes my road ( I also have jewish friends who would say oy-vey! to this knuckle head) So anyways this is sad the way legal issues are going ga ga. No offence to any soldiers out there but two guys claiming to be that stupid not to know that those wires were dangerous and we give them M-16’s?
We had a case here that made dateline ( Adrianne Reynolds murder in the Quad Cities) and the main suspect (the male one) claimed he was too stupid to understand what Guilty meant! Makes me want to drag people like this out in the street cover em in peanut butter and let the ddogs loose!
Highjacked the topic badly did we?
SIGH.
That money can never relieve the punishment sustained by the injuries inflicted by the electric wires.
I am not happy with the verdict against the railroad as it sends a wrong message to others who might consider trespassing to get a jackpot.
Whatever happened to the railcar below the trespassers after the nuking started? Did the voltage to into ground or along the rails and other cars until it disappaited?
I am guessing that the voltage that injured the two lunatics probably wasn’t enough amps to even warm up the rail…
The current would eventually find a ground through the spikes and tie plates.
Isnt those lines 700 amps? Or am I off way big?
If we increased the voltage in the lnes, this lawsuit would have solved itself.
I’m sorry if this sounds harsh, but these two kids (and I do mean kids) did something stupid. You don’t just go climb up the side of some random tractor trailer do you? I know these lessons are ones that you can only learn once, but there are limits.
The only other thing I could see is reducing the cash award, but having the railroad spend it on sinage warning of high current in the overhead catenary. It may be pointless, and, assuming the boys are telling the truth, that they didn’t know, good, that settles that. And if they really did know better…a few million that could have been theirs, going instead to some signs they would have ignored anyway…now that would be torture.
In the old truck stop in Jersey City they do climb up there while you’re asleep in the bunk. A quick cut of a power tool and they are in and no one the wiser until after breakfast. If yer smart you waited until you were in either Connecticut or Delaware before sleeping.
In a grim way, I second the power boost. I prefer those lines to hum and crackle threatening to fry anyone dumb enough to get up there. Pass a construction zone in the highway and pass multitudes of “POWER LINE” warning signs positioned precisely under each and every line.
It was stated earlier in the thread that one of the people overcame thier injuries to join the US Army and serve overseas. Did I read that right?
It was approximately 12,000 volts; and the injuries might have occurred through arcing, as opposed to actual contact with the catenary.
Jay Potter
And I’m sure there were plenty of amps available, too (hundreds, thousands?). If they had solidly contacted the conductor, and had a good path to ground, they would have ended up looking like “Debbie” in the movie “Addams Family Values.”