Well gang, we have beaten the morality issues surrounding graffiti to death!!! Now comes the modeling payoff!!! This is why I like to take pictures of graffiti. Actually, when removed from it’s context, it is simply art.
This car
becomes this artwork after some simple manipulation.
By the way, I have a few others ready, and will be working on more. If anyone wants any of this artwork, just drop me an email.[;)]
Getting pretty sophisticated. Nice!
Great, give us your home address and we’ll have some “artists” over to do you house and car.
Dave H.
Actually Dave, I think this stuff would inprove my car. I drive a white 1993 GMC pickup, and the paint is starting to peel on the doors. Maybe I’ll get some bumper sticker material, but it will have to be seeled pretty well, or the weather will wash it out.
I need to do some resizing to get it on the trains. It is still a little large for O scale.
Here are some more.
This image came from a photo of a box car posted on another members web page. It is really not necessary to email me to get the ones I post here. Simply right click and copy, then you can resize them too.
This one was never on a railroad car. It was a wall mural in Chicago. It may even have been authorized, but I’m not sure. I’ll have to recheck the website.
Elliot,
Perhaps you can help us form local graffiti clubs. We could go out late at night and spraypaint cars on lonely sidings. Each of us could come armed with 3 or four cans of various spray paint colors, a couple of Saturday night specials for defensive purposes and maybe even some cans of dullcoat so that the spray paint doesn’t look too shiny.
While we are at it, a couple of guys with testor’s rust paint can weather freight cars that look too new or clean; and perhaps dent a few with sledgehammers to make them look even more realistic than they are.
Then we could photograph our work and go back home and detail our freight cars the same. Lets call our group, Model Railroaders in the Hood.
dav
Actually Dave, if you are into original artwork like that, wouldn’t it be easier to cut out the “middle man” and just put it straight on the models?[swg] There is probably enough to choose from, so as to not have to create new anyway.
And for those who don’t like graffiti, check out the Google ads on the side of this page!!![(-D][(-D][(-D][(-D][;)]
I personally think that model trains look pretty good with grafiti.
Not every car, but a few in the group, it just adds that extra realism, especially if the grafiti is actually pretty good looking.
A little grafiti and a little weathering and away you go!
Just for travel costs l volunteer to come over and do the job for free!
BTW I prefer a compressor and spray-gun over cans [8D] [8D]
Geez, guys. Give Elliot a break. He didn’t say he supported vandalism. He didn’t say that vandalism was justified because it produced art. He said that REMOVED FROM IT’S CONTEXT it is simply art.
And I don’t think anyone can disagree with that too much. [:)]
I gotta know what you do with the paint before you start?..got braincells?
A retired employee of a rail line admitted that he had painted thousands of cars while he was working for the RR company. His graffitti was famous as it was quite artistic… finally he wanted world to know…
I dillute the paint with all kind off thinners (fast or slow) and retarder !
about my braincells:
not as many as I had when I was young, but that is another story (OPS)
when working with paint and organic solvents allways use good air filters (gasmask type) and not just a dust cover!
allways ventilate your workspace!.
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as soon as grafitty comes up some people start reacting like they been running on vapors for some time,
let’s just look at the artistic side of it , can you model a modern RR without grafitty ? It seems to be around allmost everywhere
The heyaday of graffiti art on the NY transit was from 1971 to 1986; the Golden Age, if you will. I think you will gain an appreciation or at least a certain respect for this artform if you do a quick read of this history of art on the following website; then look at a picture on the next website. I quit riding the NY subways in 1969 and moved upstate, missing that Golden Age, so my memory is of just plain grimy subway cars, nice in their own way, but without the graffiti, thus, like most of you, my bias is for graffiti-free cars.
However, if you look at some of the artwork, like Elliot has displayed, I think that at the very least, you will recognize some talent, wasted perhaps, but talent nonetheless:
History of graffiti
http://www.daveyd.com/historyofgraf.html
Transit art in the Bronx:
http://photoarts.com/cooper/graffiti/artvstransit.html
Dave Vergun
Now now guys… [:D]
You must remember that this is a model railroader forum for people to come on and express Ideas.
What I am saying is: Don’t flame the guy just because he brings up the idea of Graffiti.
If you look at a prototype railroad (Like my area, and I don’t live in a big city!) There is graffiti everywere on these cars! Boxcars appear to be a favorite. flatcars tend to not get any. The only ones to not get any graffiti would be new cars and locomotives (Because of the people present on the loco.
If it make any of you feel better, a guy trying to put some graffiti on the roof of a commuter train stood up and got fried by the overhead wires. Happy now?
How about “Ghetto Model Railroaders”. Count me in, it’ll be fun! It’s illegal, but fun! So I guess it’d be illegal fun. But how can fun be illegal?[:0][?]…[:p]
Sorry guys,
But Ghetto?!!! Why are we glorifying the “Ghetto”? I lived in it a few years. My mother was mugged one year and my dad’s car was stolen (later recovered).[B)]
Many of us spend so much energy trying to get across to young people that there is absolutely nothing cool about the ghetto, graffitti and the “nuances” associated with it!
Stands to reason that a number of the young people reading these threads are going to use this to justify the “ghetto” life, and spraying “art” (graffitti) on freight cars as a cool way to spend time. Even integrate it as part of their model railroading. Yes, it’s everywhere, but now it seems that; intentionally or not, it’s being encouraged on the Model Railroader Forum!![V]
Sorry guys, you’ve been wonderful responding to my other posts, but this one really cuts deeper than you realize if you really thing about it. Liberal “while-washing” does not help our influential younger generation at all!
Don’t worry guys, I have very thick skin. If I didn’t think I could take the heat, I wouldn’t bother to discuss it.
In this case the graffiti happens to be my image of choice, but this technique works well for other things, like logos or building windows. I have even done houses using a similar method where a photo of a house was laminated onto plexiglass, and the windows were cut out by hand, and the flat building lighted. The houses were done the old fashioned way on photo paper, and were expensive. I’m dreaming of what I could do with today’s technology.
Just because you aren’t interested in the images I’ve posted here this time, doesn’t mean that there isn’t something of value to be learned. I am working on other things beside graffiti.
As I was driving down the freeway today, I saw a semi trailer that was basicly a Marine recruitment billboard. If I hadn’t been going 70 MPH, and had had a good shot, I would have captured that image too.[swg]
We’ll be walkin’ in the backstreet alleys of East St. Louis or South LA or maybe even Queens, New York, packing Colt 45’s, wearing our hats backwards, repainting NS locomotives in Wabash or NKP paint…[:D][8D][;)][:p][}:)][:)]
Sorry, 4884BigBoy, but I’m a Country Boy now and forever!
And I can’t stand wearing a hat backwards[xx(], in fact the only thing I wrote that I would support would be NS repainting it’s roster in WABASH and NKP colors![:D]