The Southerner passenger train

Anyone have information about “The Southerner” passenger train? Where did it run during the 1950’s? What was the typical consist of cars during the 1950’s?

http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track1/southerner194112.html

Jim

Hi Craig,

It depends on exactly when in the 1950s you want to represent. That link Jim sent shows the train’s original 1941 all-coach consist, which stayed basically the same into 1951. In the winter of '51-'52, however, the train started carrying a 10-6 sleeper between New York and Birmingham. More sleepers were added over the next few years, and by 1957 the Official Guide listing shows the Southerner’s equipment as follows:

Diner, New York-New Orleans

Tavern lounge, Washington-Atlanta

22-seat coach-baggage, Washington-Atlanta

52-seat coach, Washington-New Orleans

52-seat coach, New York-New Orleans

2 52-seat coaches, New York-Birmingham

11 bedroom or 10-6 sleeper, New York-Atlanta

10-6 sleeper, New York-Atlanta

10-6 sleeper, New York-Birmingham

2 10-6 sleepers, New York to Ashevile (sout

I am looking at 1955-57 as the year(s) to model. I want to be as prototypical as possible with respect to the N&W and Southern Railway and what trains they ran. I am using the 1950’s as brood time frame but more specifically about 1955. I am looking at Bluefield, WV or Roanoke, VA as the site for my main yard which is about in the physical “middle” of the layout.

Craig,

I am no N&W/SOU ‘expert’, but the SOU used a N&W line just outside of DC and then picked up their own rail later. I do not believe that the Southerner or Crescent went via Roanoke or Bluefield. Maybe some of the SOU fans can add more information here.

Jim

Craig,

I believe Jim must be thinking of the Lynchburg-Bristol segment of the N&W that some Southern trains used as we discussed earlier. The Southern had its own line from Washington to Atlanta, whereas the N&W didn’t reach DC at all. Lynchburg, where the Southern crossed the N&W’s main line from Norfolk to Roanoke, is about 150 miles from DC via the Southern’s fairly direct route. Roanoke is about 54 miles west-southwest of Lynchburg via the N&W.

Coming from Washington, the Southerner passed through Lynchburg but continued on the Southern through Danville, Va., and Greenville, S.C., to reach Atlanta. So it crossed the N&W at Lynchburg but didn’t run on the N&W for any part of its run.

Merry Christmas,

Andy