Third Avenue's Second-Hand Cars

1201-1225, built 1924, Osgood Bradley, wider than all other TARS-TATS cars. Square, non-tapered ends, bought 1933, used only on Webster Avenue. 1210 had one end damaged as was repaired wirh that end rapaired as in a regular homemade lightweight

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No 1226 or 1227 that I know of.

1228 and 1229 similar to above, also Osgood Bradley, but normal TARs-TATS width and tapered ends. Could be used wired-system-wide, but used mainly on Webster. From Eau Claire, Wisconsin, Northern States Power Company:

1230-1239, ex San Antonio, Texas, Public Servive (3’-6" gauge) American Car. Co.:

161-163rd St. Crosstown:

Headed for Kingsbridge Carhouse at 225th & Broadway, Mable Hill:

Were the narrow gage cars the same size as the other cars?

Yes. I never knew they were narrow gauge untiil the data in the Siefried book was shown to me.

Similarly, the Los Angeles narrow-gauge, also 3’ - 6," were standard width.

Washington, DC, were one-window shorter to fit the Georgetpwn carhouise transfer table, but I do not know about the Lost Angeles Railways PCCs.

1250 was one St. Luis-built, ex-Kankakee & Urbana car, like 1201-1225 too wide for use other than the Webster & White Plains Av. “W” line. Currently lacking a scanned photo, but identacle in appearance to 1201-1225 after the door arrangement was altered to the TARS-TATS usual practice.

1251-1256, American Car Co., ex=Lake Superior District Power Co., Ironwood, MI.

University Avenue Line “U,” then used on the “C” Bronx and Van Courtland Parks, and on Bailey Avenue:

I thought 1251-1256 the best of the 1200s.

Note cars missing for numbers 1226 and 1227. Whein I visited the Garden Avenue Yard for the first time at age 15 in 1947, I saw two derellict Connecticut Company steel car bodies. I was told they had not been ovehauled and used because of too much rust. They were gone by my next visit. Possibly the two numbers were held for them in case their rehbilitation was necded?

1257 abd 1258 were from the Interstate Street Railway of Attleboro. Massachustts, built by Wasoon. Lacking scanned photo at the moment.

1259 was the first and somewhat exprimental Third Avenue home-built car. Hope to find an old negative for scanning for thid one.

The last three, 1260 - 1262, Brill, from Sunberry and Balinsgrove Ry., Balinsgrove, PA. On University Avenue until it went bus, but occasionaly on Ogden:

Hope to find. scan, and post the missing pictures.

Found my not-very-good photo showing the repaired damaged end of 1210. Did the best I could with it and cleaned-up the photo posted earlier of the undamaged end:

Another view of 1256 on Universoty Avednue

Note the difference, 1235 behind Kingsbridge carhouse:

1256: 12 regolar windoows and one small window

1235: 12 regular windows and a door de-activated.

The car originally had four double doors, b ut Third Avenue cars had a dounle entrance door and a single rear door. 1256 came that way

Previous post corrected.

An ex-San Antonio former narrow-gauge 1242 on the 161st & 163rd St. Crosstown on the ahort stretch of Jerome Avenue that stioll had strfeetcar tracks between 161st St. and the McCoombs Dam Bridge to 155th Street Manhattan, also used by Ogden Avenue cars:

Here’s 1210, the rebuilt end at the rear, southbound on Webster Avenue, north of Fordham Avenue, University, and Square, adjacent to the Third Avnue Elevated’s junction for the branch to its Bronx Park Station and Terminal.

And a little later 1252, formerly a University Avenue car, at the same spot:

Improved the 1252 photo and found two others at the same spot. Four second-hand 1200s, all different.

1213 on Webster near Fordham and 1252 shown on Fordham, returning to the Kingsbridge Carhouse, with the Third Avenue elevated and a 101-200-series Fordham-207th Street streetcar in the background.

Not a very good photo, but it does show the rebuilt end of 1210 clearly.

Another genuine Webster approaching Fordham Rd. from the north. Background: Ex-conduit-Manhattan 120. 130. or 140 northbound, and on the Elevated’s center track, a train of Compsites, stored between rush hours. Note open end train-door.

A somewhat better view of the rebuilt end of 1210, here northbound on Webster Avenue at Fordham Road: