I guess to the manufacturers small is a relative term.
http://www.mthhotrains.com/newsdetail.asp?artid=416
Jon
- UP Big Boy
- UP Challenger
- UP FEF
- UP TTT
- UP 9000
- UP Turbine
- UP DD40X
- UP ???
Why don´t I model UP? Why don´t I have a room of 100´ x 60´ to build a layout with a minimum radius of 60" to see the fascinating locos run?
Poor me!
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Has the Onion Specific finally bought BNSF and CSX, plus NS and the remaining smaller carriers to be the sole national railroad company?
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Makes sense to me, since apparently everyone in HO models the Union Pacific in the forties. Why wouldn’t MTH would do a UP Challenger - there’s only, what, maybe 10 other UP Challenger models available?? I guess if someone modelled another railroad (are there any other railroads?) or didn’t need a big articulated, it would make sense to do something else…like a 4-6-0 with Stephenson valve gear.
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the recycled Lionel tooling has arrived.
I own 2 Bowsers, not buying more…
----and so the merry go round continues.
MTH has to put out something—since BLI did-----[:-,]
… I wish I could get my hands on a Bowser PRR K4 Pacific kit - just love the K 4, although i am not modeling the PRR. [:)]
I then know what I ´d get - a wonderful built loco which is a strong puller, with the level of detail I want it to have, a sound decoder of my choice and a wonderful time while throwing it all together!
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I’m sure that MTH will release them also as the Rio Grande 3800 series, so those very few of us left who DON’T model Union Pacific will have a bone tossed to us. IF we want to pick it up, that is. [:-^]
Of course, MTH will very conveninently forget that in actuality, the UP-clone Rio Grande 3800 4-6-6-4’s were all wrong for the Rio Grande’s profile, and were forced on the railroad by the War Board and the Rio Grande got rid of them as fast as they possibly could.
But hey, it’s another 4-6-6-4 to stumble over the next time you visit your LHS. [:(!]
Thanks, but right now I’d like another 2-8-2 that ISN’T a USRA.
Tom
Thanks, but right now I’d like another 2-8-2 that ISN’T a USRA.
Tom
A Harriman Mike would be nice. But nooooooo, we get another Challenger from MTH and a Pennsy Q2 from BLI. As the late Johnny Carson once said, “May Burger King never again let you have it your way” . Apparently Burger King is now a holding company for MTH, BLI, et. al.
MTH is doing both the Clinchfield and D&RGW versions. The Clinchfield version has the correct single stock. Unfortunately, MTH, in its infinite corporate wisdom, decided to use the single stack on the D&RGW version as well. At least that’s the way it’s pictured.
May the great blue bird of paradise in their corporate Christmas pumpkin pie.
May their year’s supply of yak’s butter turn instantly rancid.
May they have 300 estates of 300 acres and upon each acre may they have a mansion with 300 rooms and may they lie in bed each of those rooms in each of those mansions on each of those acres on each of those estates suffering from terminal irritable bowel syndrome.
Nothing else seems to work.There’s nothing to lose by trying to put a curse or two on them.
Andre
Andre:
Someone correct me if I"m wrong, but it seems that MTH brought out a Z-6 4-6-6-4 in O gauge either last year or the year before.
Um, why not just reduce the dies for an HO version instead of U-Peeing all over the place? Okay, UP ‘fathered’ the Challenger, but both Alco and Baldwin built some for the Hill lines and Rio Grande, respectively that were just as fast and more powerful.
Oh well. And yes, let’s hear it for the Harriman Mike. Lots of 'em.[:P]
Tom [:)]
They brought the Z-6 out in 2007. http://www.mth-railking.com/detail.asp?item=20-3272-1
Yeah, MTH could have done the Z-6, but chose not to. It’s still a Challenger and way too big for a lot of people, but at least it’s not a UP model.
In the current O scale catalog (premier section) MTH has NYC&HR’s #999 4-4-0 with both the 86" drivers and a smaller drivered version, a Royal Hudson, a Jersey Central Camelback 4-6-0, several 4-8-4’s based on the ATSF 3776 class (with different tenders for different roads including Frisco and ACL), a “Russian” decapod (we don’t really need another of those) and a GN R-2 2-8-8-2. They also have a British “Duchess” class 4-6-2 ( ex-LMS) and a Chapelon Nord 2-3-1 (French count axles) with available CIWL cars for the Orient Express.
They’re doing or have done some modest sized engines in O, but still seem to favor the big ones overall. However, the big engine bias is not as pronounced in O.
If they want my business, they’re going to have to do a Harriman engine, an SP 4-8-0 (any class, but preferably a TW-8), or an E-23 4-4-0/M-4 2-6-0 (they used the same boiler).
Andre
Cow? Horse? Pig? Sheep?
On a serious note–I am capable of such a thing but rarely–a gaze into my crystal ball reveals that one year into the future Onion Specific 4884-1 #4018 lugs 100 flats carrying the brand new M26 Pershing tanks westward up the 1.76% grade out of the Bear River Valley into the Wasatch.
It’s a little known fact that after the Clinchfield converted its Challengers to single stack, they experimented with one of the engines changing the fuel to a mix of dried livestock manure from various species. It turned out to be a superb fuel with a BTU content 30% above the coal they were using at the time. Unfortunately, the combustion byproducts stank like… well, you know, and the experiment was discontinued. [swg]
There was even a poem (a la Lackawanna’s Phoebe Snow):
- *Says Hannah Brewer*
- *In words short and fewer*
- *About our trains both old and newer*
- *"They ride both straighter as well as truer*
- *But they all smell just like horse manure"*
Why do I feel like adding “Burma Shave” to this???
Andre
Big surprise, there’s no Western Maryland version. [:(!]
Knowing MTH, I’m just glad they haven’t released this Challenger in New Haven paint.
Here’s a couple beauties from MTH in their O-guage line:
We NH fans tend to call this car the “Catenary View”. I’m sure all the passengers in the dome section got a real “charge” out of sitting up there west of New Haven.
Here’s another “gem” from MTH:
As everyone knows, the New Haven was such huge steel-hauling railroad that they painted coil cars that they didn’t have in full McGinnis regalia. Arrrgh!
I figure it won’t be long before we’re seeing steam locos painted like the above coil car…sigh.
Paul A. Cutler III
Weather Or No Go New Haven
Rivarossi did the paint job, but I had to modify the front end to make it look halfway right. The cab is still wrong, but I live with it…
Lee
This could have easily been predicted. But it doesn’t matter, its MTH. It may as well be Marklin since it won’t work on my control system.
Sheldon
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Yea way too much money. I was more impressed with the colors than anything though. Anyone know if I could get that UP gray paint at the train shop? Wouldn’t mind seeing a fleet of 2-8-2’s, 4-6-2’s, or 2-6-0’s in that color. Don’t think it would look good on a diesel as a main color, maybe as a strip, but that’s just me. This brings me up with another question but that’s for a different post. Look for it in prototype info, I’m sure someone seeing this post will know.
Bet anyone that one could get Marklin to run on your system before MTH can/will[:-^]