Here we have two torpedo tubed GP9’s so equipped identifying it for passenger service on the turntable in Toronto. They are getting ready to take the overnight sleeper service, coaches and head end to the Big Apple but first to Hamilton their home rails then on to Buffalo where it’s handed off to the New York Central.
The TH&B, Canadian Pacific and New York Central pooled power in this service.
402_403 at CPR John Street roundhouse. These units will be dispatched on Number 329
the “Buffalo” an overnight sleeper train to New York City.
Leaving Union Station 7.35 P.M. Daily.
Note: 401, 402, 403 equipped with ATC.
Here is the Canadian Pacific coming in from Buffalo with the overnight train from NEw York City.
A CPR Royal Hudson no less, late in the game too ! Nov. 1959
Pretty decent sized consist. Likely did not see this train as early Sunday morning but I can bet you dollars to donuts I heard it. We lived close by about 35 minutes earlier than where it is in this pic and there was plenty of whistling going thru Burlington.
2857 rapidly accelerating eastbound from Sunnyside with “Buffalo”. (No. 324 Sunday Only due at Sunnyside 9.04 A.M. which is 30 minutes later than No. 322 Daily ex Sunday. These trains carried sleepers origi
PC actually rebuilt a pair of ex-PRR Rapids Budd 10-6 sleepers (as Toronto Islands and Toronto Harbour) to meet CPR’s requirements. Connections, cash flow and a bunch of other things got in the way before the work on the cars was complete. After CP substituted RDCs there was no going back.
Interesting. I remember that being mentioned before. Do you think they were deliberately dragging their feet or CP just took advantage of a situation? It sure seemed to suit the needs of both Penn Central and Canadian Pacific. I’m sure this was a pain in the pocketbook.
Hard to believe you couldn’t get an overnight sleeper from Toronto to New York City. I did travel in the original with my folks as a wee gaffer, I remember the plush bench seats because my legs did not reach the floor and have one vivid glimpse in memory of setting foot in Grand Central.
Canadian Pacific’s Chicago Express was already long gone by the time the RDC’s took over so this was an opportunity to shed that New York train and cede everything over to Canadian National.
So did they ever complete or use Toronto Islands and Toronto Harbour and put them in service somewhere else?
Did they take the u out of Harbour or just rename the car entirely.
I saw one of what must have been the last of its trips before the RDCs after High School one day. A very short train, 3 or 4 cars, with one Penn Central car marked as such, must have been ex New York Central from the Great Stainless Steel Armada.
I had seen this train darn near daily since Grade 1. That sort of went away in High School because your mind is elsewhere, being cool and the gals and all that.
I do recall it took me a minute and said to myself “That can’t be the New York train”. It was a while since I saw it last and it suddenly hit me that what I just saw was my old pal. The power was CPR in maroon and grey a F7 or FP9. Only 1 unit. It was 2 miles to the station yet and was going at a good clip. The lights in the Penn Central car made it look pretty cozy inside.
Of course I fondly recall it’s years behind TH&B Hudsons and CPR Pacifics and Hudsons. TH&B Hudsons disappeared early but my mom would walk with me up to the station, not far away, and watch
As far as I know both Toronto Islands and Toronto Harbour (still with the “u”) made it into Amtrak ownership, but neither lasted long enough to get HEP conversion. Toronto Islands is at the RR Museum of Pennsylvania in Amtrak Phase I paint, to be restored as PRR Scioto Rapids. Toronto Harbour is in private ownership.
Probably more than you think in New York at least … Edmonton is perhaps the most famous city in hockey to some of us … I have been both an acquired Rangers fan and an Islanders fan from fairly early on.
Let’s Go Islanders!!! (horn signal on Cadillac follows)
[Of course it is a good thing that nobody produces an empty map of Canada and a pointer and asks that I point out exactly where Edmonton is… [D)]]
Hockey fans certainly know where Edmonton is these days, and Tampa actually turned out to be a pretty good hockey town when they won in 2004 (poor Calgary [(-D][(-D][(-D]).
We have major roads named after both Gretzky and Messier.
I suspect my interviews with Americans would go something like this:
How’s the seal hunt this year in Alberta? I heard Ralph Klein is moving the Royal Alberta Navy’s aircraft carrier the Briar up to Fort McMurray but the Golden Broom stays in Medicine Hat. Beauty railroad station there, and a Timmies close by.
We have FM now? When I push the FM button it doesn’t move to the top. I see it along the bottom of the dial but it’s always only AM that’s comes on.
I have been to the National Igloo Monument but that road is not paved yet and it’s pretty bad in the spring.
Gotta watch those evil Saskatchewan polar bears, preying on the seals! Is it true they have adapted to the long-term global warming trend by growing brown coats?
And the evil tradition of geriatric exposure, Canada’s counterpart to barbaric Chinese infant exposure, must cease!
On the other hand, it was good to see the Columbia campus again, including the administration building. As we say ‘used to be a library … now it’s just Low’
Of course for pure delight you can’t match the videos of MIT graduates asked technical questions outside their sometimes highly-specialized fields of study… [}:)]
I was unaware that Alberta had aircraft carriers in its Navy, the whole province essentially constituting a sort of vast grass airfield for those CF-105s with tundra tires. I’m still impressed with HMCS Tecumseh, Canada’s answer to the United States research into concrete ships (does Edmonton still dock the Nonsuch?)
In all fairness, listening to her speak it sure doesn’t sound like a South Cakalaky accent to me! Are you sure she didn’t escape from “The Valley” and find her way cross-country somehow?
Plenty of snowbirds that’s for sure. Wonder how that works out with Covid… pretty sure you cannot drive down, maybe flights? I would not travel for some time yet, especially all those old geezer snowbirds.
How many Americans could point on a map where Edmonton is located…very few I would surmise. Of course that’s not important for any reason really, so just geography buffs, people who have business dealings in Edmonton, oil and gas guys and hockey fans would be successful.
Why is the Eastern Final being played in the West and the Western Final being played in the East? That is the question!
There is something scarily wrong with that link on an iPhone. It tries to open in three separate sections and cannot be copied and pasted to view.
I have to admit that’s a pretty good observation. It certainly does look as though EDMONTON is right off Montauk (of course that is at about the other end of the Island from Nassau Coliseum but on the scale of the map that is but a mere bagatelle…)
Instead of a ‘subway series’ we could have a Cannon Ball series. (Or a Hampton Jitney series … but surely there would be trainloads of fans.) What would we use to get them from Montauk out to where, somewhat Atlantis-like, the Oilers would play? Presumably that is something like an enlarged Canadian adaptation of HMS Habbakuk decked over in sheet ice with a flotilla of Zambonis.
