traction tyres yes or no? sliders yes or no?

you folks that own locomotives or diesels [:D] tyres or sliders do you leave them on or take them off? [V]

Don’t quite understand.
I find that the LGB sliders work very well.
I don’t see how you can remove a traction tyre and still run?

The sliders on my GP9 started to disappear in the garden so I took the last one off. My concern over here is replacement traction tyres. You have to order them and wait and wait and wait !!.
When in USA Trains in Malden(on holiday), I sought advice from one of the staff. I bought two replacement axles/wheels for for not a whole lot more than a packet of tyres. As I dont pull more than about six cars, I didnt need the added traction given by the tyres.

Ian P

I like the sliders from White Castle! [:p] Traction tires are nice if you need them.

underworld

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ok guys thanks!
for your input. i am still running with it all and only lost one traction tire on sd40-2 lost its specs and just rolled off usa sent me a set no charge.

of the two locomotives I have on order 1 set of powered axles has traction tires (discretely hidden inside the flange), and the rest are metal… this is more useful for grades than anything else, as the weight of the locs is quite significant (some 15lbs) and therefore the adhesion is about 5 lbs, with a tractive effort more than enough to pull a 15 car train on no or low grade tracks.

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Originally posted by underworld

I like the sliders from White Castle! [:p] Traction tires are nice if you need them.

underworld

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Ah,White Castle Sliders…Yesh,give me a dozen !!!]

I find the mechanism that allows the slider to move up and down an area that eventually wears, and causes the slider to sometimes stick “up”.

If my locos run well without sliders, I’d remove them. I plan to experiment with this.

Greg

If they were no good LGB woudn’t put them on.

Rgds Ian

Sliders I’m finding help when you are outside. The friction self cleans the rails, although the sliders do need to be cleaned before every days operation.

I have recently found out the traction wheels are a must on my layout. My original engine was a NW-2 with no traction tires. It had a very difficult time pulling 3 cars up a 3 % grade. My GP7, with a traction tire on each truck, has no problem pulling 4-5 times the number of cars up that same grade. The NW-2 is now assigned to swtiching duties in my main switching yard where it’s flat.

Regards,
Mark[;)]

Ian, I gather you like LGB. You imply because they do something it must be right.

I know people that have had LGB sliders hang up. Could it also be that LGB is so great that the sliders are overkill?

Could it be that on certain garden railways that don’t use oxidizing brass rail, and do not use 2’ diameter curves, that sliders aren’t necessary?

I’m taking issue with your blanket statement, and also your signature (with photo) is 20 times the size of your reply.

I’m not trying to cause trouble, but one-liners rarely have any helpful information in them, and my reply is because I asked a question about removing them, not how good LGB is.

Please take this as constructive criticism, not the prelude to a boxing match!

So, for anyone else, have they removed the sliders on equipment that also has pickup via the wheels? I don’t like the appearance of the sliders, and while they can help “scrub” the rails, they can also accumulate dirt, and yes, even LGB sliders can jam up. I run DCC and with 10 amp supplies, overheated sliders have melted their “housings”.

Regards, Greg

greg

i think maybe you don’t like slider’s!

gregeusa.
Sometimes the sliders get slightly bent and stick up.I usually attack them with some pliers until they behave themselves!
If you don’t like the appearance try painting them matt black.It blends them in.
I have some with and some without.I don’t really think it makes a difference.However,the more pickups the better.

what are sliders???

are they the metal things that ride allonge the rails on LGB locos or are they the power pickups on the tires???

“Could it be that on certain garden railways that don’t use oxidizing brass rail, and do not use 2’ diameter curves, that sliders aren’t necessary?”

What’s wronge with sharpe curves??? maybe some of us don’t have room for 20’ diamiter curves?

well i have been running with both for over 6yrs no problems!

Well,
both the sliders and the traction tyres have been since 2 years still in place, as they came right out of the box…and they work fine for me. So there´s no concern about taking them off.
Regards
Klaus

klaus
thats right why fix it if ain’t broke?

what are you talking about?[?][angel][%-)][{(-_-)}]

Chompers: read up a few posts… the thread is about sliders, pick up a USA trains loco or LGB loco, turn it over, look at the little metal shoes that slide on the rail for contact.

Guys, I don’t like the look of sliders. It’s not a huge deal, but I think it is an area where I can improve the appearance of my locos.

I know they help electrical contact.

I’d like to do away with them if possible.

Was looking for people with experience doing this. I believe you that yours work ok. I have seen them mess up.

Greg