I recently saw the BNSF train pacing clip on the forum and i enjoyed it. Does anyone know of other pacing videos or clips? Thanx!
Try YouTube (www.youtube.com)… lots of video there.
CC
I have been a car host on the 844 and the 819 and watched people pace these steam trains. Frankly, after watching those pacing the train I have decided I would never do so in a pack. It is extremely dangerous. Those pacing the train will pull out into oncoming traffic. And not just one at a time but those following will do it also. If that isn’t bad enought I have seen people standing up in the bed of a pickup truck shooting video while the truck was doing anywhere from 30 to 60 mph.
The pacing pack will include (sometimes) hundreds of cars and trucks, and everyone of them wants a shot of the engine while pacing it. I have seen drivers do some very crazy things while pacing a steam engine.
I know this is slightly off topic from the original post but pacing the train is very dangerous to those pacing the train and to on coming traffic. Many drivers lose their sense of safety when pacing a train and the results could be tragic.
Please be careful if you ever pace a train. If you have done so then you have an idea of what I mean. If you have never paced a train you might really want to consider not doing so, especially if it is a steam engine.
I have seen some very close calls, that would have been extremely grave, so please be careful.
There are not as many people chasing diesels so it is definately safer. But there is still a need to watch out what you are doing and be careful.
Thanx for the info! I know when i watched the video it looked a bit un-safe so sound advice!
H’mm where I did it there was really no traffic & it really was a thrilling experience & I have come back to talk about it. Naturally I just paced a plain old ordinary stacker & maybe when you are talking of a special train like 844 or 3985 there may be more people but also they do not wi***o get killed so I am sure they were just as careful as I was & I was doing 70MPH while my bro was taping the train. See for yourself & notice how many cars were on the road with me in either direction during the taping.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4360162034832389620
If you keep you sense about you I see nothing wrong with doing it on roads that are hardly ever traveled. [:D]
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I have been a car host on the 844 and the 819 and watched people pace these steam trains. Frankly, after watching those pacing the train I have decided I would never do so in a pack. It is extremely dangerous. Those pacing the train will pull out into oncoming traffic. And not just one at a time but those following will do it also. If that isn’t bad enought I have seen people standing up in the bed of a pickup truck shooting video while the truck was doing anywhere from 30 to 60 mph.
The pacing pack will include (sometimes) hundreds of cars and trucks, and everyone of them wants a shot of the engine while pacing it. I have seen drivers do some very crazy things while pacing a steam engine.
I know this is slightly off topic from the original post but pacing the train is very dangerous to those pacing the train and to on coming traffic. Many drivers lose their sense of safety when pacing a train and the results could be tragic.
Please be careful if you ever pace a train. If you have done so then you have an idea of what I mean. If you have never paced a train you might really want to consider not doing so, especially if it is a steam engine.
I have seen some very clos
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H’mm where I did it there was really no traffic & it really was a thrilling experience & I have come back to talk about it. Naturally I just paced a plain old ordinary stacker & maybe when you are talking of a special train like 844 or 3985 there may be more people but also they do not wi***o get killed so I am sure they were just as careful as I was & I was doing 70MPH while my bro was taping the train. See for yourself & notice how many cars were on the road with me in either direction during the taping.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4360162034832389620
If you keep you sense about you I see nothing wrong with doing it on roads that are hardly ever traveled. [:D]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes
I have been a car host on the 844 and the 819 and watched people pace these steam trains. Frankly, after watching those pacing the train I have decided I would never do so in a pack. It is extremely dangerous. Those pacing the train will pull out into oncoming traffic. And not just one at a time but those following will do it also. If that isn’t bad enought I have seen people standing up in the bed of a pickup truck shooting video while the truck was doing anywhere from 30 to 60 mph.
The pacing pack will include (sometimes) hundreds of cars and trucks, and everyone of them wants a shot of the engine while pacing it. I have seen drivers do some very crazy things while pacing a steam engine.
I know this is slightly off topic from the original post but pacing the train is very dangerous to those pacing the train and to on coming traffic. Many drivers lose their sense of safety when pacing a train and the results could be tragic.
Please be careful if you ever pace a train. If you have done so then you have an idea of what I mean. If you have never paced a train you might really want to consider not doing so, especially if i
I here ya Jim. I caught a few videos of the some classics running (usually steam) and everynow and then the camera will pan foward or behind, and its the huge mob of cars trying to get postion to watch the train. Sure looks like it could get out of hand pretty quick.
I certainly can understand what may occur with special trains like 844-3985 & I chalk it up to the natural selection process for those who do not take there own safety into account as cruel as that may sound. [:o)]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes
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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed
H’mm where I did it there was really no traffic & it really was a thrilling experience & I have come back to talk about it. Naturally I just paced a plain old ordinary stacker & maybe when you are talking of a special train like 844 or 3985 there may be more people but also they do not wi***o get killed so I am sure they were just as careful as I was & I was doing 70MPH while my bro was taping the train. See for yourself & notice how many cars were on the road with me in either direction during the taping.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4360162034832389620
If you keep you sense about you I see nothing wrong with doing it on roads that are hardly ever traveled. [:D]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes
I have been a car host on the 844 and the 819 and watched people pace these steam trains. Frankly, after watching those pacing the train I have decided I would never do so in a pack. It is extremely dangerous. Those pacing the train will pull out into oncoming traffic. And not just one at a time but those following will do it also. If that isn’t bad enought I have seen people standing up in the bed of a pickup truck shooting video while the truck was doing anywhere from 30 to 60 mph.
The pacing pack will include (sometimes) hundreds of cars and trucks, and everyone of them wants a shot of the engine while pacing it. I have seen drivers do some very crazy things while pacing a steam engine.
I know this is slightly off topic from the original post but pacing the train is very dangerous to those pacing the train and to on coming traffic. Many dr
Just click on the below web ste. Then click on 3985 & see all the people that were @ Ogden when she was there last year. So I completely understood where you were coming from for special trains. But, I think the starter of thread was talking of just plain old ordinary diesels [:D]
http://vgalleries.com/members/railfan1/The+Trainfan.vrg
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QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes
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QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed
H’mm where I did it there was really no traffic & it really was a thrilling experience & I have come back to talk about it. Naturally I just paced a plain old ordinary stacker & maybe when you are talking of a special train like 844 or 3985 there may be more people but also they do not wi***o get killed so I am sure they were just as careful as I was & I was doing 70MPH while my bro was taping the train. See for yourself & notice how many cars were on the road with me in either direction during the taping.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4360162034832389620
If you keep you sense about you I see nothing wrong with doing it on roads that are hardly ever traveled. [:D]
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QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes
I have been a car host on the 844 and the 819 and watched people pace these steam trains. Frankly, after watching those pacing the train I have decided I would never do so in a pack. It is extremely dangerous. Those pacing the train will pull out into oncoming traffic. And not just one at a time but those following will do it also. If that isn’t bad enought I have seen people standing up in the bed of a pickup truck shooting video while the truck was doing anywhere from 30 to 60 mph.
The pacing pack will include (sometimes) hundreds of cars and trucks, and everyone of them wants a shot of the engine while pacing it. I have seen drivers do some very crazy things while pacing a steam engine.
I know this is sligh
Last year, I paced a Steam train while riding a Bicycle. It was a lot of fun and a good workout, but I was definitley outside of my safety comfrort zone. This year I will be moe careful around the motorists.
Rich
Yea I did that with the 261 between Geneseo and Bureau Jct. in Illinois a couple years ago. I couldn’t believe how rediculous people were. So I just put my truck in “D” for contemptible person mode and hung with 'em. My dad was with me and there a lot of “oh-insert your favorite explicitave here’s” coming from the passenger seat.
But yea, the people driving with someone on the camera in the back of pickups, vans going down the road with the sliding door opened…Its nuts. I’ll never do it again unless I’m in a semi, so I have reassurance that I’ll win if there’s a wreck.
Hopefully everyone here realizes that the majority of the people who come out to see special locos are not trainfans nor read this forum. The same for the wackos who either get whacked by a train or someone sees one going around the gates they to do not read this board. So everytime we bring up the same old subject there is nobody listening sorry to say. I will speculate that railfans in general would not do what we see the “average” person do
You sure got that right Jim !!! I have tried to chase the 4449 and it was a fing madhouse. I doubt I’ll ever try that again. It’s much safer to just pick a spot and wait. Unless of course you can rent a helicopter or a plane.[;)]
For the most part it isthe railfans who are doing the wild and crazy driving. John Q. Public could care less about a video of something he/she doesn’t care about.
I am not trying to knock the railfans. I am one. But I am stating the truth. The people on the train watch the people driving crazy and make all sorts of comments about it. Actually it was the passengers in the passenger car (of the train) who pointed it out to me. The near misses are plentiful as safety is thrown out the window.
Pacing is extremly dangerous if you don’t want to cause an acident, get busted by Highway Patrol, or get wacked by a railroad bull DON’T PACE! With #844 and Big Boy heading to Ogden pacing shots will be almost impossible. With construction on 84/80 and Echo Road traffic will be reduced to one lane. Another problem is Highway Patrol if you pace you get nailed Highway Patrol will pull you over, place you in cuffs, and give you a ticket. And last but not least the people that Railfans and Hobos hate The Bulls who will be watching the tracks like a hawk is you run into them your dead and the last thing you want is them drawing a weapon on you. Play it safe find a rest area, park at Wasatch or Castle Rock, or launch a camera drone.
Here’s one I did back in February of this year that has over four minutes of pacing in it…
I would submit that if you are on public highways, within the posted speed limits, obey traffic control devices, do not interfere with the flow of traffic, and have one person dedicated to the driving while others shoot the video, you’re not going to have a problem with law enforcement.
Having suitable roads on which to pace is another story, and is self-limiting at any rate. If there are no roads paralleling the tracks, you’re not going to pace.
OTOH, racing to get from one vantage point to another can be a problem. I saw this in MI some years ago, where the tracks went diagonally cross country, while the roads were almost all on a grid.
“Another problem is Highway Patrol if you pace you get nailed Highway Patrol will pull you over, place you in cuffs, and give you a ticket.”
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone handcuffed for a simple traffic stop-speed, blowing a stop sign, improper turn, etc. They just pull you over, write the ticket, and cut you loose. Pacing, in and of itself, is not illegal, or necessarily dangerous, unless it involves some traffic infraction or somehow creates a traffic hazard. If you’re pacing the train at 45 MPH on I 80(speed limit 75 in Wyoming), you could get stopped for impeding the flow of traffic. That act would constitute both traffic violation and hazard. Still, unless they do things differently in Wyoming and Utah than elsewhere, a simple traffic stop doesn’t get you in handcuffs.
The special agents that I’ve met in a variety of circumstances act much more professionally than that.