On the bright side, it’ll be easier to push in ‘doubleheading’ than 4014 was [}:)]
Penny Trains, what a nifty 2-8-0! Where is this unit stored? Is the number 521 or has a digit worn off?
My God, the 521 is a horror.
If I had the money (And don’t we all say that? Would that it were the case!) I’d save it myself, I wouldn’t wait for the UP to do it.
Mind you, it would wind up with Erie markings. Hey, my money, my rules!
Looks like there’s another steamer in front of it. I wonder what that one is?
That is not a unit, it is a locomotive.
RyPN had a thread in 2011 that listed the 21 surviving UP 2-8-0s and discussed them a bit. You can probably find out where Penny’s example is even before she tells us.
Just trying to be conversational and hoping that Penny will expound for our benefit.
Yes, I did check other sources and yes I have a good idea what unit that might be.
Sometimes in a conversation it is just courteous to give others a chance to expound on their contributions.
That’s all I have to say about that, and I am out.
Sorry, thought you actually wanted to know. Will be more advised next time.
Not unusual in this age of the diesel for people to refer to locomotives as “units,” it’s not a mortal sin and akin to calling any paper tissue a “Kleenex” or any copier a “Xerox,” even if it’s a Canon or a Ricoh.
At any rate, there’s no 521 on either that short list or master list provided by RyPN, assuming that’s the correct number on the engine to begin with.
There IS a 529 at the Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie WA. Maybe that’s the one?
You know what impression I got from looking at that long list of donated UP steam? Just how generous the UP was in donating locomotives, and that being the case WHY-THE-HELL couldn’t the New York Central save at least one each of a Hudson and a Niagara? Ah, no point in flogging that dead horse again…
One company was profitable - one company wasn’t and needed the scrap value.
Beg to differ Balt, respectfully, but the NYC wasn’t in any financial trouble at the time, far from it.
The “pennies-on-the-pound” scrap value of one or two (or three) old steamers wouldn’t have made any effect at all on the bottom line.
I can understand why it happened, the NYC officials were businessmen, not historians, so the historic value of their steam locomotives never entered their minds, any more than a trucking company official would think twice about scrapping an old tractor unit.
The ironic thing is ten years earlier the NYC was crowing loudly about how great their locomotives were. Begs the question “Well if you’re so proud of 'em why don’t you preserve a few for posterity?”
UP sure didn’t have that issue. Neither did the Santa Fe.
Miningman
We know with great certainty that the $4,928.57 the Central got for 1290 and 1291 in scrap value did not change their future one bit.
That in 1957 ! Young and Perlman were zealots.
YEAH! YEAH!
I just get so MAD! [:(!][soapbox][banghead][|(]
Ha ha! Nice detective work! [bow] It is indeed the No 529 at NRW!
http://www.rgusrail.com/wanrm.html#upc57529
It’s in line with NP L-5 #924:
Canadian Collieries #14:
Ohio Match #4:
Weyerhauser Timber #6:
and Eastern Railway & Lumber #1:
They wouldn’t win beauty contests with anybody but railfans but thank the heavens they survive!
Only a major headache if run to make a buck at the lowest possible cost. Rebuilt to documented standards, with use of modern materials in places like the conjugating-gear pins, and with regular attentive maintenance of typical ‘steam team’ quality, the thing will go almost anywhere – it’s really just a long one-and-a-half Mountain. In the days of the ACE3000 an underfloor lathe to keep the driver tires properly dressed was an exotic machine … not so today.
But still do 3985 first!
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After reading Kratville in the State Historical Society library, I think I know what people mean by a “Nine.” What is a “TTT”?
I hadn’t thought of the low augment, even with long connecting rods, resulting from 3 cylinders, a crank axle and 120-deg crank angles.
That one of these locomotives is in Pomona, CA in and of itself is a serious problem. I read somewhere that the UP had the hardest time, even with the lateral motion on some of the drivers, getting that thing with its enormous rigid wheelbase over the Cajon Pass to its resting pla
Believe it or not, it follows the convention of the mighty 800s in nomenclature; if you know what FEF stands for, TTT will be no mystery. It’s the ‘other’ large locomotive in Cheyenne, the 5511’s official class.
FEF is Four Eight Four
TTT is Two Ten Two
So be it
To “Penny Trains…”
Thank you Ma’am!
Brother, those other engines are horrors as well. Hey, it beats a scrap yard I guess. Where there’s “life” there’s hope.