Does anyone know the deal on Union Pacific and Canadian Pacific National. Has there been a merge there or has someone bought out the other.[:(]
What is CPN? There is Canadian Pacific and Canadian National. There have been rumors of a CP/UP merger through the years, and CN/BNSF have investigated a merger. IIRC, CN and BNSF just signed a marketing agreement in the recent past…I have heard nothing about CP & CN merging into CPN…
Jim
I see alot of canadian pacific and soo line running on the UP line by my house and a somethimes canadian national. I just want to know If there has been some merger.
Probably no merger, just railroads sharing power. UP will borrow CP/SOO or CN power for their trains sometimes, or your UP line might have trackage rights granted to CP/SOO or CN. You can check at www.up.com www.cn.ca or www.cpr.ca for corporate information about these railroads.
I see almost every railroads locomotives running on CN’s main lines were I live. CSX, Union Pacific, BNSF and Norfolk Southern loco’s have been spotted just over the last few weeks. I don’t see much shared power on the CP line though, its usually just CP/Soo or leased units.
It is also possible that the track near you is joint trackage. Are the different engines in the same train? Where do you live?
Here in the Twin Cities it is common to see CSX and NS engines running in trains even though neither has rails within 300 miles of here. Saturday night I saw a lone KCS engine heading to the yard on joint trackage. I suspect UP was using it. It has gotten to the point anymore that the railroads pool engines the way they pool boxcars.
Nope, its not joint trackage. CN has 2 main lines and CP has one going through the town I live in. Its always a CN loco’s leading with one other non CN loco thrown in. On the rare occasion you might see an Ontario Northland SD75I leading a CN train. CN shares power with those railroads. When CN runs out of power they borrow from other railroads. Here is a pic of a CSX loco I took. I have a bunch of others but they are own a Yahoo group.
Here is a ONR loco leading a CN train.
Union Pacfic I would say is a lot better than CPN since it has a nice look to the locomotive and it has been almost everywhere around the united states in some states union pacfic does not run but mostly around the north south some east and some west. While CPN all I know is I have been seeing any of those around much I mostly see those in Chicago Illinios. So I think Union Pacfic is the best.
One more time - there is no such thing as “CPN”.
There is Canadian National and there is Canadian Pacific. These are separate and competing transcontinental railways in Canada that also have extensive operations in the United States. CP’s US operations include the old D&H and Soo Line, while Illinois Central merged into CN in the late nineties. CN also owns the Bessemer & Lake Erie, Wisconsin Central and Grand Trunk Western, to name a few.
There has not been and there are no indications of plans for for any merger between either company and UP. The mixed locomotive consists result from the back-and-forth leasing of locomotives between railways that is often done when one road has a temporary shortage and another has a temporary surplus of locomotives. This is a practice as old as railroading is, but is more common today because railways operate “closer to the bone” than they used to with locomotive fleets.