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Ok i had ENOUGH of this crap let’s get back to what ths forum is for Model Railroads & Railroads

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So then when you said you were leaving the forums 40 minutes ago, you didn’t really mean that? Or did you mean that you were leaving for about 20 minutes, which was the time between your posts?

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i was going to but i was starting to get mad so i came back. Let’s get off this idea so we can get back to MRR and RR

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[#welcome][#welcome][#welcome] back, I figured it was just time enough to take a can break and go to kitchen for a snack from the fridge[:)][:)][:)]Peace!!![:)]

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CNW,

I take it by your name that you are a Chicago & Northwestern “aficiando”. If you are, then maybe you might know the answer about the following.

I have seen numerous pictures of Chicago & Northwestern locomotives from the 1960s up until the UP merger. A good friend of mine and me have always noticed that in many photos, the yellow color is different. At first we thought it was the film, but then I saw several shots of C&NW engines in mu lashups of 4 and 5 engines. There were at least 4 different shades of yellow! [%-)][%-)] Two of them leaned towards “redish-orange” while the others were yellow with a lot of “green” in the color. I pity the modeler that wants an “exact” match to a locomotive he or she is painting!

Did this railroad have a consistency or did they change yellows as the years advanced.
Even when paints fade to a lighter color, the foundation color remains the same. These colors were really different>

I also noticed this with photos of the SCL railroad on locomotive handrails. Different yellows with the Black & Yellow “BumbleBee” scheme.

Thanks!

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i am not sure. they may have done this to tell what engine it is

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There are two isssues here:

  1. CNW used two shades of paint intentionally. The original was plain old yellow. It looks yellow. The newer one, used closer to its flag falling, was a flourescent yellow. It looks more toward the green end of the spectrum.

  2. There is no such thing as consistency in railroad paint colors. Each batch of paint, while intended to be the same as the official color chip, was slightly different from the others. Thus, locos painted all together would match but the ones painted in the next shop run would look different.

and really, 3. Yellow fades really fast and the sun determined what shade the paint appears to look.

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According to a book I have on the good ol CNW It says there was several types of yellow. According to the book…
OY Old Yellow pre 1981 with Railroad Roman numerals
SYa Safety Yellow: earliest “Sunburst” yellow with Railroad Roman numerals.
SYb Safety Yellow:“Sunburst” yellow,with Sans Serif block lettering, no sill stripe
SYc Safety Yellow; “Sunburst” yellow, with Sans Serif block lettering(including "CNW on nose), dashed sill stripes. This is the Imron Paint application.
TY Traditional yellow; modern version of the “Stagecoach Yellow”(OY) used from 1991 to merger.
TYb Same as TY except small engine numbers painted near top edge of long hood end. This scheme began in the spring og 1994 with the third order of Dash 9’s
and then of course the OL or Operation Lifesaver which varied between classes.

Also the yellow tended to fade to different shades. Hope this answers your question Antonio.

Jeremy

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no one else agrees with me?

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Well, no, because what you said is not correct.

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If I had to to guess…I’d say you are in your mid -40s and probably a journalist/writer/editor of some kind. I would say that you had a childhood that was highlighted by repeated beating at the hands of your classmates because you continually felt the need to chide others until they dunked your head in the toilet. The repeated immersion in the porcelin has made you a bitter old dude…lighten up before it kills you hoss…

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Nice try, but wrong.

And I’m not bitter. Just annoyed. There’s a difference.

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Me or ACL[?]

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never mind

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Which part was wrong? The writer/editor/journalist part or the mid-40’s part?

And what could you possibly be annoyed with? Folks entertaining themelves on a site for entertainment…that is what a hobby is, isn’t it…entertainment?

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ACL,

I stand corrected. You are not in your mid 40s.

Posted: 06 Dec 2003, 21:28:27 Quote

QUOTE: Originally posted by Hawks05

hopefully i’ll make some money as a Journalist or history teacher to help out my train collection after i graduate.

Don’t hold your breath.

I am a journalist. I make $42,000 a year and I’m pushing 40. If I didn’t love news, I’d have to find a real job that pays an adult wage.