Has anyone used the newest generation incandescent bulbs and evaluated their color rendition/heat generation in the train room, etc.?
Trying to figure out which incandescents will be around after the Edison Bulb goes away (if it does.)
Please NO political statements or comments. Just your experiences if you’ve used/tried them.
Thanks. Anyone here in the industry that knows which new generation incandescents will likely be around in the future? As usual, once I finally arrive at track lighting buying time, the technology changes…again!
Try as I might, I HATE flourescent lighting on my own layout so would like to know if the new incandescents with gas fills, newer reflective coatings, etc. run any hotter or cooler than the standard bulbs.
Well…I’ve been able to only find scanty descriptions and details so far, but I believe that both GE and Phillips have come out with (will will soon) an incandescent that uses halogen gas within the bulb and/or a halogen coating. Other coatings are rumored to be coming out as well.
Although they don’t save as much energy as the CFLs (only 30%) I would like to know what their light quality/color renditions are like and if they produce much less heat in the room than standard incandescents. Sorry I have no other/further details about them. Hoping someone here has tried them or can provide more info. as to whether they are truly even out on the market/shelves yet.
I"ve tried every type of flourescent and and just do not like them. The closest incandescent I"ve found that I like is GE’s “Reveal” bulbs. MUCH less yellow with a very slight shift towards red.
Thanks in case anyone has tried the newer incandescent technology.
I’m off to peruse the bulbs at The Home Depot today and try several things.
Halogen bulbs produce much more heat than a standard incandescent bulb. Most halogen bulbs that I’ve used have two pins sticking out the back instead of a screw base, and require a ceramic socket.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. The bulbs I am referring to are INCANDESCENT bulbs (not halogen per se or anything else) that have either replaced the old fashioned Edison carbon filament design with a gas filled (a tiny bit of halon or halogen) and a newer much more reflective coating.
Apparently they are not on the shelves yet after checking at The Home Depot and some other hardware stores. A google search should turn up “breakthrough” news tid-bits from the press. Unfortunately the descriptions are not very specs. oriented regarding color temp, etc.
These bulbs WILL be marketed as incandescent bulbs not flourescent, halogen, etc. and will have the common short screw in ends to directly replace standard incandescent bulbs.
I guess my intitial guess that they aren’t commonly known about or in the stores yet was correct.
I’m trying to choose something to use in my train room’s track lighting that will still be here fore years to come IF standard incandescents disappear from the marketplace.
Here’s an article for those interested. According to this, Sept. may be the earliest we’ll start to see newer technology incandescents. I still would like to know if anyone has used Halogena bulbs and if they are hotter in the room than incandescents (old style) and less heat producing than (old style) halogens which ARE hot.
Many governments throughout the world have passed laws to restrict the use of incandescent light bulbs, so I’m wondering if these new bulbs will somehow meet the new restrictions that are being imposed.
Here’s a summary of what’s happening as posted on Wikipedia:
Here in South Africa normal incandescent lamps are being phased out with initiatives having been undertaken to exchange our old incandescents with compact fluorescents for free.
Halogen lamps are also available, either the standard two pin version or halogen equivalents of standard incandescents, but the latter are merely the two pin halogen types enclosed in a standard shape incandescent bulb. They do not appear to have any special coating.
These halogens also run very hot as is the case with the two pin type and are rather more expensive.
In the year 2020 the big story will be the great Mercury scare, followed by the banning of the CFL lightbulb. Once they start popping in large numbers and get thrown into land fills the problems will start. Those things have a decent amount of mercury in them.
This concern about CFL mercury is way overblown. We seem to forget that we have been successfully living with fluorescent lamps-in commercial, industrial, institutional and even residential applications -for decades! The mercury is minimal, the guidelines for handling breakage are simple-air the room for about 15 minutes, IIRC-and many retailers accept all fluorescents for disposal.
Which web browser are you using ? With Internet Explorer it happens automatically. With Mozilla Firefox you have to have an add-on, depending on which version you’re using. If something else, I have no idea.
According to that newspaper article you referenced, such bulbs are only in the research stage, which could mean that they will not actually be produced commercially for some time…
They say – don’t ask! – anyway, whoever they are they say that CFLs will save me 85% on my electric bill; big deal – my experience is that CFLs run more than 85% more than incandescents. They also say that the use of CFLs will eliminate the emissions from 33 coal fired generating plants. WHOOPEE!!! Close down 33 coal fired generating plants should put a couple of hundred thousand people out of work. WHOOPEE!!!
I don’t know what your intentions are in regards to this government intrusion into the marketplace but my intention is that, over the course of the next year, to accumulate an estimated ten years supply of 100W, 75W, 60W, 50W, 40W, and 25W bulbs.
I heard that one of our outstanding congressman has proposed legislation to require a new base on CFL bulbs which will, in turn, require new light fixtures which will prohibit the use of incandescent bulbs. After a specified date, according to what I heard, you will no longer be able to purchase light fixtures which will accomodate incandescent bulbs.
I suggest that you do the math for your own situation. CFLs will use considerably less wattage that standard incandescents for the same light output. They also last considerably longer. You definitely will save money. How much depends on the specific use and the cost of your electricity. I believe that you will find that the CFLs will not only pay for their extra cost but will save you additional money beyond that. There are very good economic reasons why commercial, industrial and institutional applications use fluorescent lighting almost exclusively and have done so for decades.
(You may not be concerned about saving energy or a cleaner environment, but please restrain the hyperbole: if each coal-fired generating plant employs over 6000 people, it must not be a very efficient operation.)
Having a little bit of problems with perception there today dante? You know – or should anyway – that when a business shutdown occurs the economic impact of that shutdown reaches far beyond the immediate vicinity of that shutdown. How, I may ask, do you suppose that we got into our current sad state of affairs?
I will learn to restrain the hyperbole after you, sir, seek treatment for your myopia!