A lot of folks seem to have trouble using the quote function here on the forum. This can make it hard to separate the original post from the reply.
By and large it appears the problem is that folks don’t realize where the end of the material they are quoting actually is.
So, here’s the hint, if you will.
If you quote a post (or a portion thereof) it will show up in the box where you are writing your reply. You need to scroll all the way to the bottom and locate the closing “tag.” That tag will look like this: {/quote} except that instead of {} will be .
You can start your reply after the ending tag (all ending tags start with a slash).
The forum software adds a number of blank lines after the last line of your quoted material. This is what gets people into trouble. I generally delete all the blank lines so the ending tag (/quote) is right at the end of the quoted material. Then I add my reply.
Added value: If you want to reply separately to each of a number of sections of a post, you can add quote and /quote tags numerous times. Just make sure you add them in pairs.
I sometimes copy the opening quote tag, which includes the information about the original poster, then use that as the opening quote tag for each
I wonder if part of the problem is that the Reply box is so small. I might be a little paranoid, but I always start by going to the bottom right corner and stretching the box WAY down to be sure I see it all.
The forum software should put the cursor in the post body box at the end of the endquote tag. At least it does that for me.
If you select a particular part of the post you’re replying to and click the “Add Quote to your Post” box, that part will be added as a separate quote with the cursor after the endquote tag. That can be repeated as necessary, but make sure the cursor is where you want that quote inserted, I guess, because that’s where the quote will be placed.
As Larry notes, some folks are quite adept at this, some not so much so, but it really is pretty easy.
I’m confused. I just click on add quote, highlight what I want to quote and then start writing after the 2nd quote indicator. Then I do a post preview and if it looks ok - post it. Are we on the same page?
I remembered the preview function from many years ago and thought we had lost it, so I was going to ask you about it, but I started checking the icons and found it. Who’d a thunk it would be a magnifying glass? It’s always been a problem with me when it comes to computers that I seem to be iconically illiterate. All those little pictures just don’t mean anything to me.
Looks like I’m not the only insomniac wandering the forums.
Normally, I will write my response. Move my cursor to the top of my response and then hit the QUOTE button to bring in the material I am responding to.
The forum software adds lines to quoted items when they are brought into the new resulting post. I normally go back and delete the added lines to make the entire post more readable.
It used to be that when you selected a part, or all, of the post you are replying to; and clicked “Add Quote nto your Post”; the quoted text would fully appear in the post composition box; and your cursor would be parked at the end of that quoted text. Then you just type your reply without a need to relocate the cursor, and the reply naturally follows the quote and is desplayed as distinct from the quote when you post.
However, now, at times, when you select the portion of the post you are replying to and “Add Quote to you Post”, only the cursor appears in the composition box. As I recall, the word quote in quote brackets also appears with the cursor; just above the cursor; so it appears to be the normal function; except the quoted text is not displayed.
So, it is natural to assume that your cursor is sitting below the quote and ready for your new text, just as it normally is.
But actually the cursor is parked after the first quote marker rather than after the last quote marker. So it is parked inside of the quoted text. But you cannot recognize that because the quote is not shown in the composition box.
This has happened to me several times lately, and I only discovered it after making the post and seeing the whole thing displayed. So I had to go back and edit it to correct the quote structure.
There was a time when I had concluded that this was happening only when I selected a portion of the text I was replying to for a quote. So I got into the habbit of always selection the entire text, and then deleteing the parts I did not want to quote as it was displayed in the composition box. This always avoid the problem, but it is probably due to the fact that you see the entire quote in the composition box, and where your cursor is located before you being the reply.
So I conclude that this quote behavior is due to the system radomly misplacing the cursor when quoted ma
A lot of folks seem to have trouble using the quote function here on the forum. This can make it hard to separate the original post from the reply.
By and large it appears the problem is that folks don’t realize where the end of the material they are quoting actually is.
So, here’s the hint, if you will.
If you quote a post (or a portion thereof) it will show up in the box where you are writing your reply. You need to scroll all the way to the bottom and locate the closing “tag.” That tag will look like this: {/quote} except that instead of {} will be .
You can start your reply after the ending tag (all ending tags start with a slash).
The forum software adds a number of blank lines after the last line of your quoted material. This is what gets people into trouble. I generally delete all the blank lines so the ending tag (/quote) is right at the end of the quoted material. Then I add my reply.
Added value: If you want to reply separately to each of a number of sections of a post, you can add quote and /quote tags numerous times. Just make sure you add them in pairs.
I sometimes copy the opening quote tag, which includes the information about the original poster, then
It is unclear what the problem is. But, I suspect it is quoting out of thin air.
Let’s say a thread has 20 posts, and the post you want to quote is post No. 13. Press REPLY FROM THAT 13TH POST, not just a new one anywhere else. That should solve the problem.
If the quoted text is not visible in the composition box, highlight everything in the box (including what you can’t see) and change the font and/or the color. I’ve had the same problem and that solution always works for me.
Could be - I think there’s a hiccup in the forum software that turns portions of the text into unreadable characters. I’ve had a similar phenomenon without including a quote - nothing I type shows up in the composition box. So I keep typing, highlight it all, and make my usual changes in typeface and color. Voila! My entry appears! Then I get to fix my typos…
That (in general - not picking on any one person) is why I posted this. Everyone wants to make good posts - sometimes it’s just a matter of not understanding how the coding works. The blank lines are an issue in many, if not most, cases.
I’ve done computer programming and written web pages. That doesn’t make me any better then anyone else - it just means I understand how it works. Much like someone asking their mechanic neighbor how to fix something.
“But actually the cursor is parked after the first quote marker rather than after the last quote marker. So it is parked inside of the quoted text. But you cannot recognize that because the quote is not shown in the composition box.”
When I say the quote is not shown in the composition box, I don’t mean that it is invisible. I mean the quote is there in the box, but it is not scrolled into position to show in the viewing window. So if you just arrow down, it will reveal the quote by bringing it into the view window.
But the normal operation is for the system to park the quote at the top of the composition box and leave your cursor sitting below that quote and ready for your response.
Something else that I noticed starting at about the same time, a few months ago, was a change in formatting ‘nested’ quotes in the text that is pasted in using the ‘quote’ function. This may be related to the quirk which fails to render ‘smiley’ emoticons correctly in quoted text.
In BBcode, nested quotes are each delimited by quote and /quote tags, but the ‘streamlined’ version simply uses fixed indent … the problem being that attempting to type text in the ‘indented’ sections screws up the autoformatting that renders them as nested.
Where this becomes a specific issue for me is that, when I quote a whole section or prior post, I carefully remove all the excess space and lines that the forum software worthlessly injects. If I delete one too many spaces toward the indented part, the indent formatting becomes lost and I have to use the ‘undo’ function to get back and try again. On a phone, where there is no ‘forward delete’ key and the formatting is, to put things bluntly, primitive, it can be tedious at best to edit quote layout coherently, but I think it is still well worthwhile to try.
The alternative is to go in and insert quote and /quote tags manually for the “indented” sections (and, not incidentally, ‘snip’ the quoted sections for best context) to get things to read correctly. That may mean repeated use of the ‘edit’ function to get things to read coherently or as intended. Note that there is special syntax involved in getting the “author” to display; not everyone here has realized that any text can be typed in, not just a username or ‘handle’.
Note that here is Euclid’s previous post, edited as it ‘should be’ to remove the misformatting if it were to be quoted in full:
[quote user=“Euclid”]
tree68
Euclid
But you cannot recognize that because the quote is not shown in the composition box.
If the quoted text is not visible in the composition box, highlight everything in the box (including what you can’t see) and change the font and/or the color. I’ve had the same problem and that solution always works for me.
Regarding my comment as follows:
“But actually the cursor is parked after the first quote marker rather than after the last quote marker. So it is parked inside of the quoted text. But you cannot recognize that because the quote is not shown in the composition box.”
When I say the quote is not shown in the composition box, I don’t mean that it is invisible. I mean the quote is there in the box, but it is not scrolled into position to show in the viewing window. So if you just arrow down, it will reveal the quote by bringing it into the view window.
But the normal operation is for the system to park the quote at the top of the composition box and leave your cursor sitting below that quote and ready for your response.
And here is Sam’s most recent, as I would have prepared it for quoting, similarly reformatted for ‘sense’ (but without doing any tinkering with the varying fonts different posters used). Note that Sam started typing his reply within the block of text tree68 was using, so his reply did not come out separate from the inline quote even though he had a correct /quote inserted for him several lines down…
Note also that I had to manually insert the correct BBcode for the three emoticons at the end, as the forum software helpfully converted them to links. (The sense of which escapes me…)