Walthers Shinohara #6 Double Slip

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Can someone tell me the length of the Walthers Shinohara #6 double slip?

Also, I am not sure I understand the complete routing options on a double slip. Looking at the double slip, there are two tracks on the left and two tracks on the right. (I realize that there are only two tracks that make up the double slip but to simplify my question, let me refer to the double slip as two left tracks and two right tracks).

I understand that one route is from upper left to lower right (or lower right to upper left) and a second route is from lower left to upper right (or upper right to lower left).

But, can a third route be from lower left to lower right (or lower right to lower left)?

And a fourth route from upper left to upper right (or upper right to upper left)?

I hope that my poor terminology makes sense.

Rich

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Yes, all the routes as you describe are viable.

Code 100 or code 83? Per the Walthers 2008 catalog the code 100 #4 double slip is 9-3/4 inch and the code 100 #6 double slip is 12-1/8 inch.

The code 83 #6 double slip is shown to be 15-7/16 inch and the code 83 #8 double slip is 20-1/4 inch.

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maxman,

Thanks for those dimensions. Good question on Code 100 versus Code 83. Code 100 is what I am looking for, but I didn’t realize that the two different Codes would have different dimensions.

Rich

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Shouldn’t be much difference for rail code, but the higher the turnout number the shllower the angle so the whole thing will get longer as teh frog number gets higher. There’s nothign inherent in the rail code that would make a Code 100 #6 any bigger or smaller than a Code 83 #6.

Despite all the combinations, there really are only two settings for a double crossover - either both routes cross over, or both routes go straight. That’s why, with a bit of linkage, you can get away with only 1 switch motor to operate it all.

–Randy

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It really requires four different combinations of setting the points to achieve all routes on a double slip, not a double crossover.

And I confirm by actual measurement the 15-7/16" length for a Code 83 #6 DS in the DCC version.

Dante

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True for a double crossover, but not true for a double slip. In a double slip, a train entering from any rail connection at one end can exit through either of the rail connections at the opposite end. This requires independently-controlled point throw mechanisms, one for each end.

The schematic equivalent is two conventional turnouts laid point-to-point. The double slip accomplishes the same thing in half the length, without S curves.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - including hand-laid double slips)

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A double slip still requires no more than 2 point motors, to set each end independently. You do not need 4.

–Randy

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In my Fast Tracks #6 version, there are only two throwbars, each with two possible positions. So, two motors…one per throwbar.

Crandell

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I believe we are talking about different aspects of the operation of a double slip. Yes, there are only two crossbars; therefore, two motors or manual throws. However, to execute all 4 possible routes, you have to execute 4 different settings.

Dante