WC SD45 #7495 is back in service for now....

coborn35 · January 31, 2007, 6:40pm

Max, your bias is very souring and I am sorry you do not support a quest to preserve history that is almost gone forever.

don’t make me laugh. sounds like you forgot about the Chicago and North Western. they actually ARE gone! and if i dont support a quest to preserve the history of a fallen flag, then why am i planning to try and get an SD60 or 2 repainted and donated when the leasers start retiring them?

And no, WC isnt even close to being gone forever yet. Many units still remain and even the 45’s they sold are still in WC paint.

the SD45s were the most symbolic of the WC. they were the main “flagships”. so those other ones shouldnt be considered when it comes to donating and preserving a WC SD45. it’s a machine that’s becoming more and more rare. you cant just buy one off a deadline and donate it. only MRL even still has a fleet. and even of NREX bought 20 or so of the WC SD45s, i feel sure that they’re likely going to gut them for the parts and scrap the remains

There are 4 class 1’s with SD45’s. I will compile a list of total untis later.

EJE818 · January 31, 2007, 7:40pm

I think a NP painted SD45 would look pretty nice. I just like it that there is a possibility one could be saved, no matter what paint scheme. I know its not a SD45, but there is a WC GP30 preserved in Green Bay.

Lord_Atmo · January 31, 2007, 11:25pm

i dont like GP30s. they look so bizarre

coborn35 · February 1, 2007, 8:07pm

We have a SOO GP30 which was just repainted 2 years ago and saw service on WC.

CMSTPP · February 2, 2007, 8:55pm

Yup, and it looks really nice. I was really impressed with the paint job on that locomotive.

You know the GP30 looks ugly untill you’ve been around it. After you get used to seeing one, they don’t look so bad.

But NP SD45 in Duluth…[B)] It’s not looking real good. I don’t think were going to get it. But only time will tell.

Happy railroading[(-D]

James

wctransfer · February 3, 2007, 10:49am

I’d like to see that list max. SD45s on class 1s? BNSF i think has a few ex Santa Fe ones, CP doesnt have SD45s, UP doesnt have SD45s,CSX doesnt have SD45s,CN doesnt have SD45s,KCS doesnt have SD45s. And Im pretty darn sure NS hasnt had any SD45s for years.

Alec

Noah_Hofrichter · February 3, 2007, 4:40pm

The WSOR tends to do awfully high quality work at their Horicon Paint shop, and I wouldn’t expect much less. Why do you think that the UP sent their “Heritage” units there?

Max, I’d like to see that list too. Admittedly I didn’t even remember that the BNSF had any, but I can’t possibly come up with 4 class 1s that have SD45 still in service. However, I could wrong, as I really don’t know for sure…

Noah

EJE818 · February 4, 2007, 5:11pm

BNSF does have a few engines with SD45 bodies, but they were rebuilt to SD40-2 standards and are considered SD40-2s by BNSF, not SD45s. KCS and MRL are the only class ones with SD45s now that the WC SD45s have all been retired. I have seen KCS and MRL engines on BNSF rails recently, so there is still a good chance of seeing SD45s around the midwest. UP also has the SD40M-2s, some of those are also in SD45 bodies with the flares intact, some of which are still in SP paint.

coborn35 · February 5, 2007, 11:25am

HERE YOU GO!

BNSF has: SD45-2B #1904-1906, SD45 #6403-6408 and 6410-6418, SD45-2 #6450-6515 with several sold. Thats over 60 units right there.

Canadian National has: BLE SD45T-2 #900-909, DMIR SD45T-2 #400-419, with some repainted in CN colors.

CSX has: SD45-2 #8954 and 8973-74

KCS has: SD45R #6103, SD45T-3 #7200-7209

Norfolk Southern has: SD45-2 #1700-1705.

So I apologize guys about my earlier post where I stated four Class 1’s had SD45’s. Im sorry. The real number is FIVE!

MONTANA RAIL LINK HAS: SD45-2 #301-308, 309-312, and 313, SD45R #314-331 and #7544-7545 and 7455 , SDP45R #332, SD45 #342-344 and #359-389, and SD45XR #351-358.

IMRL has: SD45 #8918,8924,8925,8936,8940,352-355, 357-359,363-365,367-370,374,378, and 382.

INDIANA and OHIO has: CEFX SD45T-2 #9362,9392,and 9400, CEFX SD45R #9500

BUFFALO and PITTSBURGH has: SD45-2 #451-454,

NEW YORK SUSQUEHANA and WESTERN has: SD45 #3618 and 3634

PAN AM / GUILFORD has: SD45 #681

SO THERE YOU GO!!

SD45’s ARE NOT GONE!!!

coborn35 · February 5, 2007, 11:27am

Umm MRL isnt a Class 1.

Lord_Atmo · February 5, 2007, 11:32am

technically only 1 class 1 has SD45s. you’re counting all the variants that only have “SD45” in their names, but clearly arent straight SD45s. i think DMIR’s are actually SD40T-2s rebuilt from SD45T-2s. in which you could say UP has those too from SP and SSW’s fleets.

i never saw the SD45-2 on the same level as the SD45. without the flares, it’s just not very special. sure it looks awesome, but any hood unit with a spartan cab and 6 axles looks awesome!

but i believe several regionals and shortlines still have an SD45 or 2 anyway. so you ARE right. some still remain. but not many when you take out the spin-offs (dash 2s, tunnel motors, etc)

Noah_Hofrichter · February 5, 2007, 1:57pm

Max, Interesting list. I can’t say I put 100 percent faith in how recent it is though, as the IMRL went under back in 2002, and they are now the Iowa, Chicago, and Eastern. And to my knowledge the ICE only has one SD45 left. And like the other Max said, I don’t really count the SD45s with other designations (T-2 on the Dimmer units for instance),as many are modified to the point where they don’t look like SD45s anymore (then again there are some LLPX leasers I’ve seen that look like SD45s with the flared radiators but are offically called SD40-2s). But, still an interesting list none the less.

Noah

bigbnfan · February 6, 2007, 6:19am

[quote user=“coborn35”]

HERE YOU GO!

BNSF has: SD45-2B #1904-1906, SD45 #6403-6408 and 6410-6418, SD45-2 #6450-6515 with several sold. Thats over 60 units right there.

Canadian National has: BLE SD45T-2 #900-909, DMIR SD45T-2 #400-419, with some repainted in CN colors.

CSX has: SD45-2 #8954 and 8973-74

KCS has: SD45R #6103, SD45T-3 #7200-7209

Norfolk Southern has: SD45-2 #1700-1705.

So I apologize guys about my earlier post where I stated four Class 1’s had SD45’s. Im sorry. The real number is FIVE!

MONTANA RAIL LINK HAS: SD45-2 #301-308, 309-312, and 313, SD45R #314-331 and #7544-7545 and 7455 , SDP45R #332, SD45 #342-344 and #359-389, and SD45XR #351-358.

IMRL has: SD45 #8918,8924,8925,8936,8940,352-355, 357-359,363-365,367-370,374,378, and 382.

INDIANA and OHIO has: CEFX SD45T-2 #9362,9392,and 9400, CEFX SD45R #9500

BUFFALO and PITTSBURGH has: SD45-2 #451-454,

NEW YORK SUSQUEHANA and WESTERN has: SD45 #3618 and 3634

PAN AM / GUILFORD has: SD45 #681

SO THERE YOU GO!!

SD45’s ARE NOT GONE!!!

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Lord_Atmo · February 6, 2007, 9:29am

my thoughts exactly! there are indeed very few SD45s left!

REVISED LIST:

BNSF has: SD45 #6403-6408 and 6410-6418. HOWEVER! these MIGHT be SD40M-2s for all we know!

MONTANA RAIL LINK HAS: SD45 #342-344 and #359-389

IMRL has: SD45 #8918,8924,8925,8936,8940,352-355, 357-359,363-365,367-370,374,378, and 382.

NEW YORK SUSQUEHANA and WESTERN has: SD45 #3618 and 3634

PAN AM / GUILFORD has: SD45 #681

SD45s are dying and this list shows it!

EJE818 · February 6, 2007, 7:01pm

The ones on BNSF were rebuilt to SD40-2 standards and are considered SD40-2s by BNSF employees. They do have a few ex-ATSF SD45-2s still roaming around. Speaking of short lines with SD45s IC&E has one or two SD45s left., one in patched NYSW paint. MRL also has the F45s along with the SD45s and SD45-2s. The TRRA also has at least one rebuilt SD45T-2 but I believe it was de-rated.

EJE818 · February 6, 2007, 7:04pm

One thing I forgot to mention, most of the IMRL SD45s were sent to MRL after IMRL became IC&E. IC&E mainly rosters SD40-2s and GP40-2s now along with one or two SD45s.

Lord_Atmo · February 6, 2007, 8:31pm

so then no class 1s have any SD45s left. ouch therefore:

MONTANA RAIL LINK HAS: SD45 #342-344 and #359-389

IMRL has: SD45 #8918,8924,8925,8936,8940,352-355, 357-359,363-365,367-370,374,378, and 382.

NEW YORK SUSQUEHANA and WESTERN has: SD45 #3618 and 3634

PAN AM / GUILFORD has: SD45 #681

only 4 roads

coborn35 · February 6, 2007, 9:10pm

Jeez. If you asked for flamingos and i gave you a white one, you would shoot me for not bringing a pink one.

You asked SD45s!

SD45T-2’s stil have the SD45 designation.

CMSTPP · February 7, 2007, 10:26pm

I’m just going to but in on the conversation a little. sorry.[tup]

I see what you guys are saying. With all those #s, how could it possibly be an SD45? You need to look at the internal components. The outside may be different than what you’re looking for.

The SD45T-2 is infact an SD45. It has a 645 diesel engine and has all the components of an SD45. The WC took there SD45s and lowered the RPMs on the engine so it couldn’t put out all 3600 HP. Instead they had it so it put out 3000 HP. They did this so that the Cam shaft wouldn’t brake so easily as it was a problem with the 645 diesel engine. The same with the SD45T-2. So it also put out 3000 HP, which is why crew members usually refered to them as SD40T-2s. The -2 is telling you that the locomotive has updated control panel and electrical components. Nothing to big in that category. So if you look at this locomotive, it is an SD45. Just the outside was designed differently. Which is why they are called tunnel motors. Designed for use in long tunnels.

This pretty much goes the same with the SD45-2. Same diesel engine. Same meaning with the -2., but you’re looking at it from the outside. That’s fine everyone has there own idea on what an SD45 should look like.[;)] But you need to take into the fact that they are still SD45s. No matter how you look at them.

Happy railroading[(-D]

James

CMSTPP · February 7, 2007, 10:53pm

[quote user=“bigbnfan”]

[quote user=“coborn35”]

HERE YOU GO!

BNSF has: SD45-2B #1904-1906, SD45 #6403-6408 and 6410-6418, SD45-2 #6450-6515 with several sold. Thats over 60 units right there.

Canadian National has: BLE SD45T-2 #900-909, DMIR SD45T-2 #400-419, with some repainted in CN colors.

CSX has: SD45-2 #8954 and 8973-74

KCS has: SD45R #6103, SD45T-3 #7200-7209

Norfolk Southern has: SD45-2 #1700-1705.

So I apologize guys about my earlier post where I stated four Class 1’s had SD45’s. Im sorry. The real number is FIVE!

MONTANA RAIL LINK HAS: SD45-2 #301-308, 309-312, and 313, SD45R #314-331 and #7544-7545 and 7455 , SDP45R #332, SD45 #342-344 and #359-389, and SD45XR #351-358.

IMRL has: SD45 #8918,8924,8925,8936,8940,352-355, 357-359,363-365,367-370,374,378, and 382.

INDIANA and OHIO has: CEFX SD45T-2 #9362,9392,and 9400, CEFX SD45R #9500

BUFFALO and PITTSBURGH has: SD45-2 #451-454,

NEW YORK SUSQUEHANA and WESTERN has: SD45 #3618 and 3634

PAN AM / GUILFORD has: SD45 #681

SO THERE YOU GO!!

SD45’s ARE NOT GONE!!!