I got some American Flyer track and its ancient, or its been sitting in a leaky attic. And can you use WD-40 on rusty/dirty track?
WD-40 is that anything like an SD-40?
seriously, once stell track is rusted its pretty hard to clean off. WD 40 is a lubrikink not a rust remover, I’ve heard that Simple Green is good at cleaning rust and grime from chrome so that might work, generally anything thats a good chrome cleaner should also work on steel rail.
yes, you might let it soak in wd40 for a day or two( since WD-40 penetrates rust, it should loosen light rust), then get some drywall sandpaper(it has sqare holes in it to let excess material fall free) in the finest grit you can get, then sand upside down( track upside down and sandpaper underneath the rails) this way gravity pulls rust away from the track & ties, resulting in less finish cleaning. Good luck!
Think about automotive rubbing compound. It’s abrasive enough to take
the paint off your car finish.
WD-40 is NOT a lubricant, although a lot of people use it as one. It is a SOLVENT.
With American Flyer track you neet to be careful with conductive liquids like WD-40. That’s because that type of track uses cardboard insulators which could be crompromised if they come in contact with too much liquid. I would recommend something as abrasive as emery cloth, concenteating on the top surface of the rail.
New and used track is available if you find that your’s is too far gone. Curves are easier to find, straights may go for a bit of a premium on the used market.
WD-40 was developed during WWII as a lubricant/water displacement formula and rust inhibitor. It will not remove rust! You might try soaking the track in CLR since it can remove the rust, and then dry it off and try sanding it lightly using Crocus cloth(available at hardware stores).
JC and others, for what it’s worth, I wouldn’t use any thing like WD-40 or soaking in any type of liquid. The steel rails are crimped onto steel ties with a thin piece of fiber board for insulating the rails from the ties. This will damage the insulation. Best to use elbow grease with steel wool or fine sand paper or cocus clothe. If you have access to compressed air, use it to blow the resulting dust and grit from the track pieces. A large wire brush chucked up in a dremel motor tool may make quik work of it also, but be sure to wear eye protection if you do.
try not to use enything that can scrach the rail.
it lets dirt build up in the cracks and crevices
and thats not good for the layout
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Holy smokes! Time out here! [#dots]
First it was said to be a lubricant, not a rust remover.
Then it was said to it does penetrate rust.
Then it was said not to a lubricant, but a solvent.
Then it was said that it was developed as a lubricant/water displacement formula and rust inhibitor, and will not remove rust.
Someone says let the track soak in WD40, then another says be careful about using it, then yet another says they wouldn’t use it at all.
Anyone else getting dizzy? [%-)] I think someone needs to clear this up, because anyone reading this will come away with no idea of what WD-40 is or if it should be used.
Actually, maybe it’s not a good idea because we’ll likely see even more contractions… [banghead]
I think I’ve decided that the only two things needed to live a long and happy life are Duct Tape and WD40. [;)]
I found a site that lists 2000 uses for WD40 (uses are not endorsed by the manufacturer):
Among the ones I found amusing…
• Shines leaves of artificial houseplants
• Eliminates static on volume and tuning control knobs
• Cleans doggie doo from tennis shoes
• Keeps kitty-doo from sticking to electric cat-box rakes
• Use a full can for a nifty paperweight
• Removes stubborn temporary tattoos
And of course, to address the issue at hand…
• Lubricates and improves electrical contacts on model train tracks
[:D]
Removing rust can be tricky. steel wool followed by emory cloth then polished/buffed may be one method if you don’t want to deal with chemicals. Most industrial rust removers are acid base with a PH of 1 or 2 and contain Phosphoric acid. Just watch the rust bubble off and come shiny clean in a matter of seconds (wear protective clothing as per MSDS). However anything with galvanised coatings or aluminum will be “sacrifised”. One example of a rust remover is Bright Test, which was originally developed for cleaning Rail Cars I user it onboard the ship I ork on and it works extremely well. Chances one way or another you will have pitted or scratched surfaces that will collect dirt. You may be able to use things like CLR but only for light rust.
As for WD-40, It’s wonderful stuff but you may want to read the MSDS and warnings .
Ferg, and everyone else, STEEL WOOL isn’t a good idea for American Flyer and Lionel type tracks, for the same reason that soaking in liquids should be avoided. The fact that WD-40 improves electrical contact would be disasterous in this application.
The ties are metal, and the insulators are cardboard. Bridging any part of any track will result in an electrical short in any layout created, and can be a real pain to find and fix.
As much as the scratching and pitting of an abrasive may not be desirable, under the circumstances it still may yield ths best results.
You might be able to get the track clean without abrasion by using a fabric wheel in a Dremel tool. A little jewelers rouge on the wheel will remove the rust and will leave the rail polished.
Tom
Hi, JCtrain
I see from your profile you’re in Oregon. I don’t know if the product is available there, but here in the midwest, we use a product called Wink. It comes in a brown (actually, rust coloered) bottle and is availavble in grocery stores, Wal-mart, K-mart, etc, Takes rust off of just about anything. As always, try it in an inconspicuous place first (is there any inconspicuous place on track?).
Tom
Realizing that steel wool is a concern especially if it gets into electronics and motors, However if you take time to clean, vacuum, brush and wipe you should be able to remove all fibresof concern.
Mr Paulsen is very close to the mark with the use of a fabric wheel. Green fibre scrub pads for use in a kitchen would be a better solution to steel wool and less apt to scratch the track.
Thanks Elliot!
I would use it lightly due to soaking the cardboard insulaters in the ties.WD40 does remove rust as well as it cleans. mustache
Naval Jelly will remove and prevent further rusting – and it is not as dangerous or flammable as WD-40.
Now, as far as WD-40 is concerned, the can lists the following attributes:
Lubricates moving parts, such as hinges, wheels, rollers, chains, gears.
Cleans most surfaces of grease, grime, tar, adhesives, gum, tape, crayon, scuff marks, water deposits.
Protects against rust and corrosion, items like tools, firearms, sporting equipment.
Penetrates to free stuck parts like nuts, bolts, valves, locks.
Displaces Moisture to restore wet or flooded equipment such as engines, spark plugs, power tools.
The can also states: DANGER! Flammable Mixture – Fire Hazard.
Probably because it uses propane gas as the propellent since the EPA outlawed the use of freon gas. Nearly all manufacturers of pressurized spray cans use propane gas now.
Go to the store and buy a COKE sit down and take sipp ,OK now clean your tracks
( just kidden ,I use coke and simple grenn fore my clubs)
Seems we have some disagreements on cleaning Jc’s track. This seems to be centered on scratching the track and the use of steel wool causeing shorts. I cannot disagree with you and normaly would not recommend cleaning track that way. However, jc stated the track has been stored in a leaking attic and gave me the impression that this track was highly corroded and rusty. My thoughts are that if he was going to try to clean it and use it, that the biggest concern would be not to damage the cardboard insulation between the rails and ties. As old and corroded as this track is, any soaking is sure to damage or desolve that insulation. Granted I would not use steel wool or sand paper on track under normal conditions, but this track probably has more pits and scratches on it from the corrosion, than the steel wool would inflict. Naturally, it must be cleaned of any residue from this method of cleaning to prevent shorts and the residue from being picked up by the rolling stock. I posted this reply only to justify my thoughts in my earlier post. Thanks, Ken