What's 36' long, 8' diameter, has domed ends and...

would make a great load for a Walthers heavy duty centre depressed flat car?

Put another way. I’ve been given a couple of obscure bits of copper plumbing that scale out at the mentioned sizes in H0.

They don’t quite fit into the bed of the CDF cars for length. I think that they would fit on the 8 axle flat I have (Athearn?) but maybe look a bit top heavy even if within gauge. Both ideas assume that they would be something heavy… Which might be some sort of plant with coils (of pipe) inside it?

If the cylinders were just empty pressure vessels I’m guessing that they might be much lighter… I’ve sat one in a 52’6" gondola and it looks okay. Would it be within the load weight limit? I guess that there would be a big difference between a steel and an alluminium cylinder…

Anyone got any ideas and/or pics of such loads please?

The cylinders have end outlets that I can turn into discharge / inspection hatch points and it would be fairly easy to atach inlet/outlet flanges and/or access ladders to them…

I’d love a Schnaeble (or whatever they’re called) car but haven’t seen any catalogued for some time…

Thanks

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http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1T4DKUS_enUS282US282&resnum=0&q=schnabel+car&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=bDiRS6HlH9LFlAfay4D8AQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CBgQsAQwAw

http://southern.railfan.net/schnabel/schnabel_comer.html

http://www.con-sys.com/products.htm

Well I have never seen a car like that. When did they start making them?

Cuda Ken

Following patent from 1977, http://southern.railfan.net/schnabel/patents/4041879_p1.html, references another patent issued in 1970, 3,532,061: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3532061.pdf

And the first page of that PDF patent document references some German patents issued in 1960 and 1964.

Dave, I doubt that they’d waste using a depressed centre flat for that load, as it’s well-within the dimensional limits for most standard gauge lines in North America. It should fit on a standard 50’ flatcar or in a 52’6" gondola - depending on the particular car, good for either 70 or 100 tons. If the weight exceeds the car’s capacity, a plain (non-depressed centre) heavy-duty flatcar would be the next logical choice.

Here’s a similar-type load in 50’ bulkhead gondola:

Wayne

Hmmm… I was kind of getting to figure that… the exception I was wondering about was if the things contained some sort of coiled tubes or ??? that made them very heavy.

Then again they can just make interesting loads on flats or in gons.

One of them has been, freehand, cut amazingly neatly across so I could add a piece of dowel and stretch it to make whatever length of cylinder I fancied. Maybe a load on two flats?

Half the fun on this one is figuring out just what can be done.

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Two heavy duty flats?

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=314876

I have seen pictures of gun tubes for battle ships that were on 2 flats that had turntables with a flat in between for a spacer. One load 3 flats. Maybe someone can find the pics and post them here.

Pete

Here’s a link to a model: http://www.richyodermodels.com/rym_fc_co_f22_reserve.htm

And I think this is a prototype photo…supply your own naval gun: http://prr.railfan.net/freight/freightphotos.html?photo=PRR_435317_925527_F22_E12573_090440.jpg&fr=

Yes! Those are the flats. The pictures I remember had the muzzle in a clamp on one flat then a flat as a spacer then the breech was on the third flat in a larger clamp. If only I can remember where I saw the pictures.

Thank you

Pete

A very long “Weinermobile”.

www.flickr.com/photos/twistedart/2477374044/

Just for giggles… A lot of those pictures where you see therail cars moving a “battle ship barrell” were more likley than not, a coastal gun. They were roughly about the same size, 14’ to 16" but there were more of them than battleship guns. Would make a great load and conversation peice.

Did you get the pics of the big tank car I sent to you a few weeks ago?

Yes thanks very much[tup] Sounds like you didn’t get my reply. [8)] Sorry about that. They were very helpful. Don’t know whether it was my laptop or my addled brain that failed to send the reply.

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Thanks for the replies here. [^]

Two heavy-duty flats, 24 wheels each, and space flat in-between.

Great post, guys. Some really good ideas for what to do with a badly made military cannon I inherited that I’d like to convert to a super heavy duty flat. [tup]