Williams by Bachmann EMD Geeps are really GP7 models.

Classic Toy Trains Forum
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The “GP9” roadnames and paint schemes are getting a bit stale in the Williams line.

The Williams By Bachmann GM-EMD Geeps are GP7.

Compared the bodies of the Williams Geeps to the Bachmann HO Scale GP7. Reached the conclusion that the HO Scale and O Gauge GP7s match each other.

The reason I say this is because they are stuck on the paint schemes and road numbers of the GP9s that they have been using for at least the past 20 years.

Time for a change of pace at Bachmann by finally putting only all the GP7 Road Names, Paint Schemes, and Road numbers on these Geeps.

If they correct and improve the line-up, it will be an incentive for operators to buy up the old stock and get something new that has not been available.

Put the paint masking crew back to work at Williams by Bachmann.

GP7 Owners and operators included:
The Electro-Motive Division Demonstrators
Aberdeen & Rockfish
ATSF
Atlanta & St. Andrews Bay
Atlanta & West Point Railroad
Atlantic and East Carolina Railroad
Atlantic Coast Line
Baltimore & Ohio
Bangor & Aroostook
Belt Railroad of Chicago
Boston & Maine
Butte, Anaconda and Pacific
Central of Georgia
Central of New Jersey
Charleston and Western Carolina
Chesapeake and Ohio
Chicago & Eastern Illinois
Chicago & NorthWestern
CNW/CMO
CB&Q Burlinton Route
Chicago GREAT WESTERN
Clinchfield
Colorado & Wyoming
Colorado Fuel and Iron
Columbia Newberry and Laurens
Delaware, Lakawanna and Western
Denver and Rio Grande
Detroit & Toledo ShoreLine Matches the Nickel Plate Road scheme
DT&I
ERIE
Florida East Coast
Georgia and Florida
Georgia Railrod
Great Northern Railway
Illinois Central
ILLINOIS TERMINAL
Kansas City Southern
Kansas Oklahoma and Gulf
Louisville and Nashville
Maine Central
Me

2

Howzabout offering an undecorated version, and I’ll paint my own. [I][8D] (works in other scales…)

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I like the Williams quality and reliability but I too want to see more roadnames for the northeast, especially the Reading Railroad. Take a look at the Williams website, both traditional and classic, for anything in Reading and all you get are four engines and three freight cars, one caboose. There is NO passenger car sets for the Reading Company. WHAT GIVES?? Reading Railroad was the fifth largest freight hauler during the 1950’s, so I would love to see more in the Reading Lines or I may buy Atlas trains if I can afford them.

Maybe Williams could get a little experimental and produce stuff for Blue Mountain and Reading(passenger line that was formed after the sale of the Reading Company), or another would be Reading and Northern, (now a regional railroad in Pennsylvania)the freight line that was formed after the sale of Reading Lines to Conrail with left-over equipment from the Reading railroad.

Lee F.

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Lee its kinda funny to me your comment about Reading as i just picked up an Reading NW-2 and transfer caboose by Lionel from 1981 real cheap like $40.00 for both plus shipping [:)] But I agree with you on that you don’t see much Reading items and personally i don’t care who the manufacturer is They just don’t really carry them much. just looked on the bay and less than 300 items with reading in the titled in O gauge and over 68,000 items listed under O gauge.

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WBB is just perpetuating Lionel’s misnomer for the diesels with the dynamic brake fitted. Lionel’s postwar models are all GP-7’s too.

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I have been trying to find the Lionel 15101 thru 15103, and 15105 Reading passenger cars, with little or no success. Should have bought them all when they first came out, but didn’t have the money. It seems that anything with Reading name on it gets bought out quickly and never released by the owners.

Lee F.

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Do you check choochoo very often as i believe I remember seeing some reading passenger cars on there about a month ago but not sure if they were MTH or Lionel

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Bachmann could have people vote on-line for their favorite GP7 paint scheme yet to be applied.

One vote per person.

Andrew

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Williams has never made any LIRR models, which is strange since just about any railfan in the USA

knows the LIRR (for better or worse), and the LIRR has used an plethora of different colors and logos

on it’s equipment through the years.

A model of the present day Cannonball would be nice !

Ken

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They should also do the MT. Hood Railroad and Port of Coos Bay Railroad, they are as well known across the country as the LIRR.

Doug

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Thanks for the reminder! I checked last week and will check again this week.

Lee F.

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Yes. We need South Eastern. ALso they have SD90s in like ten roads. Their UP Heritage units are also SD90s.

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I don’t forsee Bachmann making many new Williams models in the GP-9 or even the SD-90 series for a couple of years. While Williams makes great quality stuff, their variety is very limited!

Maybe Bachmann will surprize us this spring, but I wouldn’t count on it. Personally I want to see more GP-38 models in more roadnames.

Lee F.

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They have already done the hard paint scheme research for the HO Scale GP7 models. It can be applied to the O Scale/O Gauge models. Atlas applies HO scale research to O Gauge and O Scale models, so Bachmann should be able to do the same.

Andrew