WW1 Armistice General Pershing returns home

General Pershing waving from the observation car upon his return. PRR Link at bottom. Thanks to Mike


Wilmington Morning News, Sept. 13, 1919
Wilmington was Pershing’s heart and soul yesterday. The nation’s hero smiled and bowed himself into the affections of the people of the city in the same simple and unassuming manner in which he has won their admiration. It took just eighteen minutes to turn 15,000 Delawareans into hero-worshippers of the most ardent kind. Bowing, smiling, waving his arm, saluting, General John J. Pershing became the focus for 15,000 pairs of eyes as whistles blew, a band of forty pieces played and the opening bars of the National Anthem were sung as his train pulled into French street station at 1:16 o’clock yesterday afternoon. Thousands lined the northbound platform, thousands filled every vantage point on the central platform and many more were on the northbound track, while others hung to roofs adjoining the railroad station or clung to perilous positions wherever a glimpse of Black Jack Pershing might be had. Standing erect on the back platform, living up to his reputation of being one of the most military-looking figures in the Great War, General Pershing looked over a sea of faces and a veritable forest of waving arms, handkerchiefs and hats. The cheering was infectious and tumultuous. It could not be stil

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Thanks Mike! And thanks Miningman for passing it along!

Here’s a recoding from 1918 featuring General Pershing. Not only did he look the part of a general, he even sounded like one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg3rZwQ2oUQ

In studying the period, I’ve seen there’s really two John J. Pershings. There’s the wartime commander, who looks stern, serious, and pretty formidable. But then when the war’s over, you see him smiling, joking, laughing, pretty obvious he’s a whole different person when the burden’s lifted.

Pretty much in the same way you don’t see that famous big Eisenhower smile until after V-E day.

Imortalized as The General Pershing Zephyr

Watched an interview yesterday with his granddaughter on a news channel. Fascinating, great talk. She stated he came from a very poor farm. The family could not afford to send him on to any kind of college so he enlisted in order to further his education. Not like he had a straight path to West Point, it was a hard go to get there.

His humble beginnings always made him identify more with the regular soldiers, and although a very tough guy he was a friend of the common man and soldier.

Quite right Firelock… he certainly looks the part of General.

I really like the Pershing Zephyr, if only diesel power was developed base on the form and style of the Zephyr. The six-wheel truck was not for everyone but I think it was the most interesting part of it.

A Korean National CS-2 2-8-0s:

Background history: http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr142.htm

“The second group of Consolidation, Class 2, were sent to Korea in 1947. There were 100 of the World War II USArmy S160 locomotives which were numbered 1 thru 100. In addition, there was a World War I Pershing which was numbered 101. It had been built by Baldwin in 1917. It was later renumbered 765 in honor of the shop battalion at Pusan, where it served as a shop goat. Later it was renumbered back to 101 and sent to the National Railway Museum at Green Bay, WI, by the Korean government in 1959.

I just thought of another few personal Pershing anecdotes.

Back in the 80’s we were at an antique show in northern New Jersey. One of the exhibitors had a group photograph of General Pershing and some of his staff with some local dignitaries titled “General Pershing visits Cresskill NJ.”

I was looking at the photo and my friend Charlie comes over. “What are you lookin’ at Wayne?”

“I’m looking for someone in that photo that should be there, and yep, there he is!”

"Who is it?

“It’s George Marshall. He was Pershing’s chief of staff at the time, and you know he went on to become the first Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during World War Two.”

“Oh yeah, that’s him all right!”

Just then the exhibitor came over, he’d overheard me, looked at the photo and his eyes got as big as saucers. He reached over and took the photo down.

“Sorry guys, I’m keeping this one!” He looked the right age for a World War Two veteran. I can’t say I blame him but I was going to buy it myself!

Just about the same time I went to a militaria show and there was a two-volume set of Pershing’s “My Experiences In The World War” and autographed by the man himself. The seller wanted $50. I had a brain-blockage and passed it up.

WHAT was I thinking? I’ve been kicking myself in the butt ever since!

A sad note, General Pershing’s grandson, 2d/Lt Richard Pershing USA, 101st Airborne Division, was killed in Vietnam. They’re buried side by side in Arlington National Cemetery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCigLVIIKk

Above is a short Pathe clip with General Pershing and President Roosevelt for Veterans Day ceremonies.

Remembrance Day up here is a really a big deal and has always centered around WWI. There isn’t a town across the country that does not have a WWI memorial. There were also canon in parks all over the place. Used to play on them as a kid.

Just to add. Canada was in WWI alongside Britain right from the start in August 1914, some 3 years before US involvement. With a population of 8 million there was not a town that did not lose young men and the feel the effects.

Everyone wears a poppy a week ahead of time for as long as I can remember. Everyone.

We live in a world today that is shaped by the consequences of WWI. Recently Bosnia and even more recently the rise of Islamic extremism and all those artifically imposed borders in the Middle East. Even Putin’s Russia, searching for a path forward for its future and how it is to be.

To get back to Railroads, it brings up the question once again as to how the border was handled with the New York Central’s CASO and Ottawa lines and the Great Northern into Manitoba and British Columbia. Also Pere Marquette and Wabash through Southern Ontario, Detroit/Windsor to Buffalo/Fort Erie. There is virtually no documentation or record of what transpired and I’m sure things were tightened up and watched closely with restrictions. Also security with armed troops at stations and bridges. Those were very active and busy lines in those days of 1914 and throughout the war.

My instincts tell me things were generally cooperative and friendly but a watchful eye was ever present.

Late Edit:

Just watched this all on the CBC a short while ago. Firelock will enjoy the Piper. Very moving, very stirring. Thanks a whole bunch to Mike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWJCXuaa_pE

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015024036462;view=1up;seq=44;size=125

Something called the Ogdensburg Declaration. 1940, before America’s involvement in WWII, to assure the security of North America and America itself. Meeting between Prime Minister McKenzie King and President Roosevelt at Ogdensburg, NY.

November 11th used to be called “Armistice Day” here in the US, and part of the observations were at 11:00 on that day everything came to a halt for a minute of silence for those lost. In the big citys it was quite a sight to see.

Then in the 1950’s considering there had been two wars since 1918 it was changed to Veterans Day. Just fine, but sad in a way because it pushed the World War One vets into the background a lot faster than they might have been otherwise.

Uusally on Veterans Day I display an assortment of American service flags in addition to the Stars and Stripes, but considering today was the 100th anniversary of the Armistice I went a little different.

I put out a correct for the period 48 star flag from the collection, an Italian flag for my grandfather who fought in the Italian army during WWI, an old Newfoundland Red Ensign and an old Canadian Red Ensign for Lady Firestorms Canadian connections. Man, that old Canadian Red Ensign looked good! Very dramatic and striking!

And those Canadians that fought the First World War were damn good soldiers! And as far as I know there was no consciption in Canada during the First War, they were all volunteers. I might be wrong on that though.

You are correct Firelock. No conscription. Vimy Ridge was our greatest moment.

Nice presentation with the Flags . Good for you.

Back when I lived in Burlington we had a genuine vexillophile across the street and a couple down from our house. He had a huge v shaped array with multiple poles and flag hanging locations. Every day there was 5, 10, 20 flags flapping away. He had thousands of flags. Interesting guy.

Vexillophile, now that’s a word you don’t hear every day! I guess you could say I’m one myself. Flags and their stories (and controversies) are quite a fascinating study when you get into them, I’ve been hooked on 'em for years.

PS: I just watched the Remembrance Day ceremony from Ottawa. Very impressive and moving. The war memorial and tomb of your Unknown Soldier is just beautiful.

And there’s just something about bagpipes, isn’t there?

I spent Sunday morning at the Australian War Memorial, only a block from my home. A very impressive operation, opened in the rather unfortunate year of 1942.

Our Prime Minister came as did most of the ambassadors. We don’t have a US Ambassador. You know that your country isn’t regarded as a threat when you can go a couple of years without a US Ambassador. The US Naval Attache laid a wreath in the absence of an Ambassador. Our Governor General was in in France, of course.

To return to Pershing, the trailing car of the General Pershing Zephyr is in Australia, having been used by BHP as a Business Car. It was called Sundowner but has its original name of Silver Star back. It is now used as a cafe in Port Hedland quite near the harbour. Pershing’s signature was engraved on a stainless steel plate on the car’s rear door, and is still visible. The cafe is very popular and serves a lot of take away coffees, as well as full meals.

Peter

Well I’ll be darned. A Burlington General Pershing Zephyr car in Australia and now a coffee shop to boot. Glad for that and thanks for passing that on.

Like ourselves and New Zealand, and other Commonwealth countries, Australia was in both wars from the start, so we share that commonality. I’m sure WW1 is just as much of a serious remembrance as it is here. WWII as well. Think you guys had your hands full with the Japanese and the Pacific in WWII. We had troops in Singapore when it fell and attached to other British units. Many into forced labour.

Now how the heck did a mining company end up with a Zephyr car from the US?

We had a small ceremony this am at our Library. Very cold and snowing. Watched the CBC feed from Ottawa, then Mike very kindly sent to me as well and I posted. The first 5 minutes or so is well worth watching. Rest of the day I watched the HBO show ‘Band of Brothers’ which is still on, playing all the episodes, stayed warm and indoors and monitored the Forum and posted. Great day. Tomorrow is a holiday for Remembrance Day since it fell on a Sunday this year.

Now how the heck did a mining company end up with a Zephyr car from the US?

One of the original joint venture partners was an American company called AMAX. I’m sure you know more about them than I do. Apparently the “Silver Star” was between engagements and the CEO of AMAX bought it and had it shipped to Port Hedland in 1974. There were four cars, 300-303. At least two are in museums in the USA. For some reason, Silver Star, 301, was the oldest.

A movie was played earlier in the week “The Railwayman” about British prisoners on the Burma Railway in Thailand. I’d seen it a couple of times before, but actually noticed that it was an Australian production. The railway scenes in the UK and in Thailand are remarkably good.

I’ve mentioned before that my father served in Africa and the Pacific in WWII and he never owned a Japanese car. An uncle served in WWI on the Western Front and suffered from a gas attack and was classified “Totally and Permanently Incapacitated”. Despite this he was quite active and appeared quite bright and outgoing.

At the ceremony on Sunday there was a big turnout of bikers from the “Veterans Motorcycle Club”. This was originally called “Vietnam Veterans Motorcycle Club”, but the first word was dropped to take account of all the subsequent wars. I noted Somalia, Rwanda and Afghanistan listed on the jackets. The club symbol is a skull with the Australian Army “slouch” hat. This first appeared in an early 1970s movie called “Stone” (about Vietnam Veterans) and was adopted in real life with permission from the filmmakers…

Peter

Does the movie “Gallipoli” ring a bell?

The inference is that in Commonwealth countries the Remembrance Day ceremonies held on November 11 each year has a stronger emphasis on WWI. All the wars are remembered and honoured that day as well, including Korea and Afghanistan actions.

The ‘Great War’, so named because we didn’t know there would be WWII, had a profound effect on a far smaller population here and a fledgling Dominion barely 50 years old. The poem Flanders Fields and the poppy have become one with Remembrance Day. Vimy Ridge is considered a ‘coming of age’ event, a nation apart from Great Britain.

Just not sure if the same emphasis exists in Australia. The close by threat of Japan in the Pacific and bombing of Darwin, actions in Borneo and such, might place greater remembrance on WWII down under.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZybjRLHhNjw cool hats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tWLuGIhr_M pyramids
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_n8fxHfSM 1965 documentary

The emphasis on the First World War declined as the last of the veterans died.

Of course we have ANZAC Day (Australian and New Zealand Army Corps) Day on 25 April which commemorates the date of the landings on Gallipoli. While the ceremonies are much the same, there are parades of veterans (and current serving servicemen) on ANZAC Day. The road leading to the War Memorial is named “ANZAC Parade” and is lined with gardens of brush plants from Gallipoli. The road is aligned with Parliament House on the opposite side of the lake.

The War Memorial was opened to commemorate the First World War and its expansion to include later conflicts hasn’t been straight forward. There are plans to expand dramatically the exhibition areas (while attempting to maintain some integrity with the old building) to cover Australia’s continuing involvement in more recent conflicts.

The real problem began at the end of the Vietnam War, which was not popularly supported, and vetrans were not given “welcome home” parades. This combined with the usual post war problems of st