Well, after losing 2 FP45s for $1.00 ([:(!][|(][soapbox][tdn][censored][banghead])on ebay, I looked to www.internethobbies.com for relief. They have them, although one thing puzzles me. There’s a SANTA FE PASSENGER scheme, and an ATSF PASSENGER scheme. There’s only one picture, of an Amtrak one. So, I’d like to know the difference. I’d like one in the warbonnet scheme that says SANTA FE in big red letters on trhe sides. You can look for yourselves:
http://www.internethobbies.com/internethobbies/emdfpwflyw.html Thanks in advance, guys![:D][;)]
Jonathon–
From checking the photos on the Walthers website, I’d say you want the #140-3621 “Santa Fe Passenger”, as opposed to the #140-3625 “ATSF Passenger” version.
The large, red Santa Fe lettering is shown on the #140-3621. The original-style black lettering is shown on the #140-3625.
–John
Thanks John!
Actually, both are painted the same and would be perfect. I don’t know why it’s saying ATFS on Internet Hobbies, as Walthers shows both as Santa Fe passenger. item 3625 says it’s the early version and 3621 says it’s the warbonnet version, yet both are painted in warbonnets with Santa fe across the front.
The only difference is in the numbering, 3625 with the early number of 5941, shows it was before Santa Fe did the renumbering (one of our elusterous Santa Fe experts will know when this happened exactly), and 3621 with a number of 92 is obviously after the renumbering. So if you want it before the renumbering, then choose the 3625, but if you’re going for an after the renumbering, then 3621 will do.
Jay
NTDN,
One additional fact though. The early paint scheme version, based on the 1968 introduction of the prototype, had the small Santa Fe lettering in Black on the sides of the locomotive.
The later version was for the Santa Fe “SuperFleet” concept which while it used the same red Warbonnet scheme, the letters on the side were *red and quite large.*The prototype Santa Fe FP45s that have survived today in museums have the large lettering on the sides (SuperFleet scheme)
When the SuperFleet concept was introduced, the FP45s were renumbered into the “100” series as this was a significant number for their flagship locomotives of the past. Later, with the arrival of the GP60M, featuring the wide safety cab, the FP45s were renumbered into the “90s” series while the GP60s were numbered into the 100 series.
Take care, Amigos!
here is a weblink with prototype info and road#
http://members.aol.com/JFuhrtrain/FP45data.htm
Lupo,
Good website. Always nice to learn more about the EMD cowls or “Big Jacks”. It’s nice to see that these locomotives are becoming more popular again among modelers and railfans.
I’ve always pointed out that the safety cab design on most of today’s modern EMDs strongly resembles the face of the cowls.