The five stripes also looked good in the Brunswick Green a true classic electric in either scheme.
Good Morning Tom, Just thought I would add the next installment in the series.
STREAMLINED SLEEPING CARS
OF THE
UNITED STATES & CANADA
By Al
INTRODUCTION
The first lightweight streamlined sleeping car to enter service in the United States was the Pullman Pool car GEORGE M. PULLMAN named for the founder of the Pullman Company. This car was a true lightweight being constructed mainly of Aluminum by Pullman in May 1933.
The car was never repeated but certainly was innovative in many ways being of lightweight Aluminum construction it was the first successful railway application of this metal to a passenger car. The trucks under the car were experimental four wheel trucks with aluminum side frames of a new design built for smooth riding qualities at high speeds, but never repeated as they required a great deal of maintenance. The experimental trucks the Sleeper observation GEORGE M. PULLMAN was delivered with were never repeated under any other car and were replaced by standard 6 wheel trucks within the first two years of operation. The experimental trucks were never seen again. Rumors persist that one of the trucks developed a serious crack and that was the reason for their removal. The interior of the GEORGE M. PULLMAN consisted of 3 Double Bedrooms, 1 Compartment, 1 Drawing Room, with Buffet and Lounge Observation area. The car ran on several different trains over the years before being sold to the C&GW for use as a Business car and Charter car. The GEORGE M. PULLMAN despite its historical significance was retired and scrapped.
Since the first streamlined sleeping cars were direct descendants of the older Pullman heavyweight sleeping cars it is interesting to note that the interiors were basically similar to the heavyweights they replaced except for the clerestory roofs. Many of the heavyweight cars were becoming all room cars by this time as many trains began offering more and more of this type accomm
G’day All!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #47
Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Northern Pacific (NP) from a 1949 advertisement in my personal collection.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . See Nature’s greatest show at . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . YELLOWSTONE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
SEETHING GEYSERS and growling mudpots . . .
. . . . . steaming hot springs and lacy waterfalls . . .
. . . . . . . . . . begging bears and aloof antelope . . .
no wonder visitors never tire of talking about their Yellowstone trip on the streamlined North Coast Limited.
Make this your year to tour America’s biggest, strangest national park . . .
. . . . . but make your reservations soon! North Pacific – “the Yellowstone Park line” – will send literature about Yellowstone and other places you want to visit out West.
Write G. W. Rodine, Dept. 339, Northern Pacific Railway, St. Paul 1, Minn.
. . . . . . . . . . NORTHERN PACIFIC . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . YELLOWSTONE PARK LINE . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Enjoy! [tup]
Tom [4:-)][oX)]
Hello Captain Tom,
Just checking in from Helsinki - and I left a posting over at the bar.
Looks like this thread of yours is STILL hanging in there. Must say I am a bit surprised, however, I am supportive of what you are trying to achieve. Have not had much time to browse, but I will.
BK
Good Afternoon Tom,
Here’s a bit of basic info on my favorite rail cars, the domes: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
A dome car owned by the Santa Fe Railroad in the 1950s.from: www.trainweb.org
A dome car is a type of railroad passenger car that can include features of a lounge car, dining car and an observation. Its primary feature is a glass dome on the top of the car where passengers can ride and see in all directions around the train.
Configuration
A portion of the car, usually in the center of the car, is split between two levels, with stairs leading both up and down from the train’s regular passenger car floor level. The lower level of the dome usually consisted of a small lounge area, while the upper portion was usually coach or lounge seating within a “bubble” of glass on the car’s roof. Passengers in the upper portion of the dome were able to see in all directions from a vantage point above the train’s roofline.
On some dome cars, the lower portion was built as a galley, where car attendants used dumbwaiters to transfer items between the galley and a dining area in the dome portion of the car.
History
The popular story is that the first dome cars in North America were conceived by Western Pacific’s President Harry Mitchell. Mr. Mitchell was riding in the cab of one of his railroad’s diesel locomotives through the Rockies when he thought that every passenger should be able to see the scenery that is passing by on his railroad’s passenger trains. His idea was to provide a full 360-degree view from above the train in newly built “vista-dome” cars. The idea really wasn’t too radical as railroad cabooses were often built with a cupola above the car’s roofline so the train crew could get a better view of the train, and the Canadian P
Here Lars hope this satifies your dome craving for a day or two
Streamlined Dome Cars
Of The
United States & Canada
by Al
The following trains began demonstrating or entered service on the dates listed as dome equipped trains. The number of domes listed in parenthesis represents per consist. And the two terminals are shown for each of the dome operated trains.
TRAIN OF TOMORROW May 28, 1947 (4) Demonstrator See UP 457-458 for service.
VISTA DOME TWIN ZEPHYRS CB&Q December 19, 1947 (5) Chicago – Twin Cities twice daily round trips.
COLORADO EAGLE MP- D&RGW June 1948 (1) St. Louis – Denver daily each direction
CHESSIE C&O August 1, 1948 (2) Cincinnati – Washington daily each direction never entered scheduled service.
PERE MARQUETTE C&O October 1948 (1) Chicago – Detroit daily each direction
VISTA DOME CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR CB&Q – D&RGW - WP
March 21, 1949 (4) Chicago – Oakland daily each direction.
COLUMBIAN B&O May 5, 1949 (1) Washington – Chicago Overnight each direction
ROYAL GORGE D&RGW September 1949 (1) Denver – Salt Lake City daily each direction via Pueblo.
BLUE BIRD WAB February 26, 1950 (4) St. Louis – Chicago round trip daily
457-458 UP June 18, 1950 (4) Portland – Seattle round trip daily
SHENANDOAH B&O January 8, 1951 (1) Washington – Chicago every other day
CAPITOL LIMITED B&O January 8, 1951 (1) Washington – Chicago overnight each direction
SUPER CHIEF AT&SF December 1951 (1) Chicago – Los Angeles daily each direction
TEXAS EAGLES MP – T&P 1-2 July 1952 (1) St. Louis – Fort Worth overnight each direction
TEXAS EAGLES MP 21-22 July 1952 (1) St. Louis – San Antonio overnight each direction
MISSOURI RIVER EAGLE MP July 1952 (1) St. Louis –Omaha/Lincoln via Kansas City daily each direction
CITY OF KANSAS CITY WAB August 1952 (1) St. Lo
Hey Al
I think you may want to begin numbering these “monster Posts” - I believe this last was Posted on the previous page. Nevertheless, it is chock full of good stuff and ALWAYS aprpeciated.
No comment on the NP[?]
Good to see both of you, BK and Lars - thanx for stopping by! Nice work, Lars!
Later!
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
Tom Watch Tomorrows Passengerfan Al’s Streamliner Corner for the NP you were expecting.
Good Morning Tom This fits with the continuing theme.
THE STREAMLINED HEADEND CARS OF THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA
By Al
Introduction
The headend cars were those cars that were used for the transportation of Mail, Express shipments, Coffins and Passenger Baggage, company mail, packages, bulk mail (magazines, 2nd and 3rd class mail) etc. Head end cars also sorted the mail in route in Railway Post Office cars. Headend cars were also those cars that carried everything necessary in the way of supplies to people, who live in the more remote regions of the country, this is especially true for those living near the Alaska Railroad and along certain remote rail lines in Canada. In many of those places the trains are the sole access to the rest of the world for those who choose this way of life.
Still other headend cars were used for the transport of Thoroughbred Race Horses and Prize Bulls, but only one railroad in North America the Canadian Pacific Railway purchased streamlined cars for this purpose. The other railroads that were involved in the transportation of Race Horses and Prize Bulls had purchased enough heavyweight cars of these types to see them to the end of that segment of rail transport. The early 1960’s saw this business disappear altogether from the rails, with the trucking industry and even air freight transporting the thoroughbreds, it was no longer necessary to transport Prize Bulls as just their frozen semen was transported usually by refrigerated truck transport or Air Freight.
Eventually the railroads operating the Railway Express Agency (REA) would even see this business disappear to companies such as Federal Express and United Parcel Service. The latter began at the end of WW II the other in the late 1950s; between these two they now operate 70% of the overnight package business with the remainder handled by the U.S. Postal service. Several railroads invested in streamlined cars to transport their REA shipments but for the most part REA shipments traveled
G’day All!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #48
For your BRITISH ISLES Holiday
USE THE COMPLETE SERVICES OF BRITISH RAILWAYS
Here’s something to enjoy regarding the British Railways from a 1949 advertisement in my personal collection.
. . . . . Our trains mean pleasant, easy day or night service to every corner of Britain.
Railway-operated channel steamer services to Ireland and the Continent assure you
comfortable accommodations and convenient connections.
. . . . . 45 hotels throughout Britain associated with British Railways invite you to pause
. . . . . on your tour or business trip, for relaxation, sports and enjoyment of their
. . . . . traditional hospitality.
STAY LONGER * SEE MORE! 25% REDUCTION IN TOUR FARES
By planning ahead the many places throughout Britain you wi***o visit, you can effect a considerable saving by the individual tour fares granted by British Railways to visitors from overseas.
. . . . . Write for YOUR free copies . . . . .
”WHAT, NO ICE?” – written especially for Americans planning to visit us; as well as the full-color map folder, ”THE BRITISH ISLES” both free upon request to Dept. 25 at any of the offices shown below.
For tickets, reservations and authoritative travel information on the British Isles
CONSULT YOUR LOCAL TRAVEL AGENT or any British Railways office:
. . . . . NEW YORK 20, N. Y., 9 ROCKEFELLER Pl.
. . . . .
Hello Tom,
Nice work with the two latest Nostalgia posts. Almost missed the Northern Pacific as it was sandwiched in between Als great, but overly lengthy, volumes of info!
Don’t get upset Al - just get even![swg] Suggestion: why not break those monsters up into sections[?] Sure would be a heck of a lot easier to read. Just a thought.
Just stopped by to give you some “support” over here, as I posted my “daily” at the bar a few minutes ago.
Until the next time!
Lars
Hi Al & Lars - appreciate your continuing support of this thread! [tup][tup]
Check out these photos of my favorite loco:
Pennsy GG-1 in Tuscan (courtesy: www.trainweb.com)
Pennsy GG-1 in Brunswick Green (courtesy: www.trainweb.com)
Of course, I prefer the 5-stripes livery (previoiusly Posted).
Later!
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
Tom thanks for the GG-1 pix it was always my favotite electric and I’m a west coaster.
STREAMLINED DINING
& LOUNGE CARS
OF THE UNITED STATES
& CANADA
By Al
INTRODUCTION
The streamlined Dining and Lounge cars came about in the natural evolution of the streamlined trains. After all if one is to have a streamlined train then a streamlined Dining and Lounge car is necessary to go along with the streamlined headed cars, streamlined coaches and sleeping cars.
The two earliest modern streamliners the UP M-10000 (later CITY OF SALINA) and CB&Q 9900 (later PIONEER ZEPHYR) each provided limited food service and this was served at ones seat from a small buffet in each train. The articulated M-10000 buffet was in the third cars Bullet shaped rear end. The articulated stainless steel 9900 ZEPHYR buffet was located in the forward end of that trains second car. The M-10000 and 9900 ZEPHYR trains provided limited beverage service. Even though prohibition ended in 1933 the territory the M-10000 operated in was mostly Kansas and this state was still dry. The 9900 ZEPHYR on the other hand served alcoholic beverages in the first two rows of coach seats and in the Parlor Lounge since it operated in Nebraska, Iowa and Missouri all wet states. In fact the 9900 ZEPHYR served alcohol on every route it operated in. Probably the most well remembered route operated by the 9900 ZEPHYR was as the ADVANCE DENVER ZEPHYR along with the MARK TWAIN ZEPHYR on a fast 16-hour schedule overnight between Denver and Chicago while the CB&Q awaited delivery of there new streamlined DENVER ZEPHYRS.
The first lightweight streamlined trains to provide streamlined dining –lounge cars were the Milwaukee Road HIAWATHAS of May 29, 1935. Each of the two HIAWATHA train sets carried a 48-seat TIP TOP TAP Tavern Lounge Café as the first car behind the streamlined 4-4-2 locomotives tender.
Some will argue that the TWIN ZEPHYRS introduced April 21, 1935 were the f
Hey Al,
Thought you’d like these:
ATSF Chief (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)
UP City of Los Angeles (courtesy: www.trainweb.org)
Enjoy!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
G’day!
PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #38
Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:
Kansas City Southern (KCS)
Headquarters: Kansas City, MO
Mileage:
1950: 962
2000: 2,995
Locomotives in 1963:
Diesel: 121
Rolling stock in1963:
Freight cars; 581
Passenger cars: 22
Principal routes in 1950:
Kansas City, MO-Shreveport, LA-Port Arthur, TX
Dallas, TX-Shreveport-New Orleans, LA
Minden-Alexander, LA
Passenger trains of note:
Flying Crow (Kansas City-New Orleans & Port Arthur)
Shreveporter (Hope-Shreveport)
Southern Belle (Kansas City-New Orleans & Port Arthur)
From my personal collection:
From my personal collection:
Enjoy! [tup]
Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Thanks Tom for the pix of the AT&SF CHIEF and UP CITY OF LOS ANGELES both look like they were taken in Southern California. Also enjoyed the KCS F-unit very nice paint scheme to bad their passenger cars didn’t match. Was that picture of the KCS unit taken in KC ?
TTFN AL
Good day Tom,
Nice shots of the KCS loco and of course your Fallen Flag piece. If I recall, these were taken during your trip to KC with Pete, correct[?] I remember viewing them on your PhotoBucket site. Nevertheless, that loco always looks good - nice livery.
I’ve been a bit behind in things around here and haven’t really had as much web time as usual, so I’ll pass on my pix contributions for a bit. We’re enjoying yours![swg]
Hey Al - you’re everywhere![tup]
Until the next time!
Lars
For Al
As Lars picked up on, yes those Pix were taken at KCity’s Union Station. Those and a bunch of others were previously Posted over at the bar from my trip out that way with Pete this past September. Glad you enjoyed 'em.[tup]
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
G’day!
Doesn’t this just make you want to travel by train[?][swg]
DRGW #1145 Silver Sky (courtesy: www.trainweb.com)
Later!
Tom[4:-)][oX)]
G’day All!
PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #49
Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Union Pacific (UP) from a 1949 advertisement in my personal collection.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . .”Wonder World” . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . OF SOUTHERN UTAH * ARIZONA . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . BRYCE CANYON . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NATIONAL PARK . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
To visit Bryce is like entering a strange, new world. The rainbow-hued, fantastic stone shapes are mysterious, enchanting.
See Bryce, together with Utah’s Zion and Arizona’s Grand Canyon National Parks, on one memorable motor bus tour. Make this area your vacation destination or stop over en route to or from Los Angeles.
Union Pacific will take you to Cedar City, Utah – gateway to the Parks – in air conditioned comfort.
UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Road of the Streamliners . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Enjoy!
Tom [4:-)][oX)]