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G’day Tom

I see 20 Fingers Al has been busy, busy, busy here and at the bar! Good show, mate![swg]

That’s a terrific pix of the “Trans Continental” - really impressive![tup][tup][tup]

So, it appears that CN is “it” around here, huh[?]

CN “Trans Continental” eastbound at Jasper (1972)
(from: www.trainweb.org) Photo: Chris Guenzler

CN “Super Continental” at Jasper (1976)
(from: www.trainweb.org) Photo: Chris Guenzler

CN “Skeena” at Jasper (1976)
(from: www.trainweb.org) Photo: Chris Guenzler

Until the next time!

Lars

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Hey guys!

Nice work with the Posts and Pix, Al 'n Lars!!

Last couple of times I’ve been through Jasper (in winter) there was hardly any snow at all, even up on the mountains. Nevertheless, it is a beautiful place to see and visit.

Never had the opportunity to travel aboard the Trans Continental - although from what I’ved heard from Al and others, must’ve been a great experience. Of course I’m way, way biased in favor of “The Canadian” from old - like the “Canadian” of present day as well. (Note the subtle differences with the “the” . . . )

Later![swg]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

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Good Evening!

Here’s a beauty from “somewhere” in Canada . . .

CN #6031 4-8-2 (early 1940s) (from: www.yesteryear.com)

Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Good Morning!

Here’s something Posted over at the bar several week ago . . . .

Now arriving on track #1 ……
Railroads from Yesteryear! Number Two

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Chesapeake and Ohio Railway

Locale: District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wisconsin

Reporting marks: CO

Dates of operation: 1869 – 1972

Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)

Headquarters: Cleveland, Ohio

The Chesapeake and Ohio Railway (C&O) was a Class I railroad formed in 1869 in Virginia from many smaller railroads begun in the 19th century. Tapping the coal reserves of West Virginia, it formed the basis for the City of Newport News and the coal piers on Hampton Roads, and forged a rail link to the midwest, eventually reaching Columbus, Cincinnati, and Toledo in Ohio and Chicago, Illinois.

Headquartered in Cleveland, Ohio, USA, in 1972, it became part of the Chessie System, along with the Baltimore and Ohio and Western Maryland Railway. In 1980, the Chessie system combined with Seaboard Coast Line Industries to form CSX Corporation, which by 1987 had merged all its railroad subsidiaries into CSX Transportation, one of seven Class I railroads operating in North America at the beginning of the 21st century

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Good Morning!

Chessie, an interesting road - try these out for size:

Name trains of the Chesapeake and Ohio (C&O)

As always, I have no clue with regard to ‘when’ these trains ran, nor are they all-inclusive - just for the fun of it![tup]

Until the next time!

Lars

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CHESAPEAKE
&
OHIO
and
PERE
MARQUETTE Streamlined Coaches
by Al

The C&O for its size would order one of the largest postwar fleets of lightweight streamlined cars ever placed with Pullman Standard. Unfortunately it was more cars than the C&O could possibly use for their passenger services. Many of the cars from this order were canceled before metal was cut for their construction. Others were sold directly to other railroads such as the D&RGW, IC, and B&O. A further group of cars would be sold by the C&O after Pullman Standard delivery some having never operated in C&O service. The C&O would still end up with one of the most modern passenger fleets of any eastern railroad. For coach passengers the C&O would introduce some of the most innovative new coaches of any railroad.
The first of the C&O postwar streamlined trains to enter service was the two consists of the PERE MARQUETTES inaugurated August 10, 1946. These two Pullman Standard built seven car streamliners would enter service between Detroit and Grand Rapids, Michigan scheduled for three round trip daily. The Pere Marquette Railway was owned by the C&O but operated at that time under its original name. In 1947 the Pere Marquette would become the Northern lines of the C&O. The trip between Detroit and Grand Rapids was 152 miles in each direction with each train operating 456 miles daily. Each of the seven car streamlined trains provided revenue seating for 220 passengers. The trains were painted Enchantment Blue Roofs, Car Ends, Window Bands and Trucks with a Venetian Yellow Letter Board and fluted stainless steel panels on the car sides below the windows. The E7A units were painted to match minus the fluted stainless steel panels. The two head end cars and diesel unit were the only cars turned at terminals. The remaining five cars like the prewar Reading CRUSADER consisted of a pair of Coach Observations with Blunt ends a pair of Coaches and a 44 seat Dining car in the center. The trains were train li

747

G’day!

An ENCORE! Passenger RR Fallen Flag

Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:

Chesapeake & Ohio (C&O)

Headquarters: Richmond, VA

Mileage in 1950:

5,343 (including ferries)

Locomotives in 1963:

Steam: 3 (fireless “cookers”)
Diesel: 1,053

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 92,992
Passenger cars: 324

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Cincinnati, OH-Ashland, KY-Staunton, VA-Newport News, VA
Gordonsville, VA-Washington, DC
Clifton Forge-Richmond VA
Ashland-Louisville, KY
Limeville (Ashland)-Columbus, OH-Toledo, OH
Columbus-Pomeroy, OH
Catlettsburg (Ashland)-Elkhorn City, KY
Ronceverte-Durbin & Bartow, WV
Chicago-Grand Rapids, MI-Detroit, MI-St. Thomas, ON-Buffalo & Niagra Falls, NY
Grand Rapids-Petoskey & Bay View, MI
Erieau, ON-Ludington, MI
Ludington-Milwaukee & Manitowoc & Kewaunee, WI (ferry routes to each from Ludington)
Toledo-Bay City, MI
Port Huron-Bay City-Elmdale, MI
Holland-Muskegon-Hart, MI

Passenger trains of note:

George Washington (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
F.F.V. (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Louisville)
Sportsman (Washington & Newport News-Cincinnati & Detroit)
Pere Marquettes (Detroit-Grand Rapids; Chicago-Grand Rapids & Muskegon; Detroit-Saginaw, MI)
Resort Special (Chicago-Petoskey; later, Washington-White Sulphur Springs, WV)

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Chesapeake
&
Ohio Dome Cars
(C&O)
By Al

The Chesapeake & Ohio purchased six domes all delivered by Budd in 1948 these six domes were of two different types. There were 3-coach–lounge observations 1875-1877 and three family room dome cars 1850-1852 as they were called. Both types of domes were built for the CHESSIE a new daytime streamliner between Washington – Newport News and Cincinnati. The CHESSIE would have operated as two sections east of Charleston. One section of the CHESSIE to and from Washington and the other section of the CHESSIE to and from Phoebus (Newport News), consolidating westbound at Charleston and splitting at this point eastbound. Alas, it really didn’t matter, as the CHESSIE never entered service. The forty-six cars delivered by Budd in August 1948 for the CHESSIE trains were disbursed over the next few years. All six of the dome cars were sold. The Dome sleeping cars were sold to the B&O in December 1950 for service in the CAPITOL LIMITED and SHENANDOAH. The C&O had seriously considered adding these cars to their own SPORTSMAN and even went so far as to assign names to the cars even though the names were not actually applied as follows:

1850 BELLE ISLE DOME

1851 CHAMBERLIN DOME

1852 HAMPTON ROADS DOME

The other three CHESSIE domes the coach lounge Observations featured 20 seats forward of the dome and 16 seat lounge aft of the dome in the rounded end of the cars. A newsagent’s stand and the cars restrooms were located beneath the 24 seat domes. The C&O assigned these cars to service in the PERE MARQUETTES between Chicago – Grand Rapids and Detroit – Grand Rapids. The three cars 1875-1877 were sold to the Rio Grande in September 1949. Before delivery to the Rio Grande the cars were fitted with an adaptor complete with diaphragm for mid-train operation. After repainting in Grande Gold and Black the cars were renumbered 1248-1250 respectively.

TTFN Al

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G’day!

How’s this for “power”!![?]

C&O 2-6-6-2 #1276 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)

Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

750

G’day!

One more “steamer” . . .

C&O 2-8-2 #2342 (from: www.yesteryeardepot.com)

Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Good Morning!

Here’s something previously Posted over at the bar . . .

Canadian Railways of the Past

Number Two: Northern Alberta Railways (NAR)

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Northern Alberta Railways

Locale: Alberta, British Columbia

Reporting marks: NAR

Dates of operation: 1929 – 1981

Track gauge: 4 ft 8½ in (1435 mm) (standard gauge)

Headquarters: Edmonton, Alberta

The Northern Alberta Railways (AAR reporting mark: NAR) was a Canadian railway which served northern Alberta and northeastern British Columbia. Jointly owned by both Canadian National Railway and Canadian Pacific Railway, NAR existed as a separate company from 1929 until 1981.

Predecessor railw

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G’day!

An “in service” look at NAR . . .

NAR #1454 in service (from: Alberta Rwy Museum)

Enjoy![tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Hi Tom

Did some browsing on the Northern Alberta and wasn’t “sure” about the sites or pix available . . . Nice shot of the passenger car. Wonder if it was on a “mixed” consist. Had read that many of those roads in western Canada used freight and passenger cars in the same train mix.

Until the next time!

Lars

754

G’day!

Lars - My research indicates that many of the Northern Alberta trains were in fact “mixed.” So, you win the prize - a free drink at the bar![tup][swg]

Here’s another:

NAR #1453 in service (from: Alberta Rwy Museum)

Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Tom enjoyed the NAR article always wanted to ride one of their mixed trains as some operated with 8 and 9 passenger cars mostly head end types but they offered coach, dining and sleepers on some trains. It was one of those things I put on my list of things to do and never made it.

TTFN AL

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Good start. When is someone doing the NYC?

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For: NYC3149

I don’t normally respond to Posts from people without any info in their Profiles - however this one requires me to.

Good start[?]![?]! There are 38 pages full of information about Classic Trains. My suggestion to you and anyone else “out there” is to begin at PAGE ONE and scroll through all of them . . . . You may find what you are looking for, and more!

That’s kinda the way things work on these Forums and all the Threads.

Good hunting![tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

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What the heck … one more for “the road!”

NAR “Rycroft” Pullman (from: Alberta Rwy Museum)

Later![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]

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Good Morning!

Here’s something previously Posted over at the bar . . . .

RAILWAYS of EUROPE #2 – Eurostar
(London – Paris – Brussels)

Eurostar

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Eurostar


Eurostar at Vauxhall (GNU Free Documentation)

Franchise:: Eurostar

Main Route(s):: London

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G’day!

Something to add to the Eurostar . . . .

France: Eurostar & Thalys, Paris Gare du Nord (Wikimedia Commons)

Enjoy![tup]

Tom[4:-)] [oX)]