G’day!
Nice to see Lars 'n Art aboard today! [tup]
Not that much out there regarding the Rock Island (CRIP) so anything in the form of Pix is a real treat! [tup]
Now to the “theme” at hand - liked that Pix from you Lars! [tup] Don’t believe I’ve see that one before . . .
Southern on the move, Harrisonburg, VA (1947)
Later! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
SOUTHERN
Streamlined Sleeping Cars
by Al
The Southern put together some of the finest streamlined trains to operate in the Southeastern United States. There first streamlined train was an all coach streamliner running between New York and New Orleans by way of Birmingham named the SOUTHERNER beginning March 31, 1941. This was followed by another mostly streamlined train the TENNESSEAN began service May 18, 1941 between Washington, D. C. and Memphis, Tennessee. The TENNESSEAN operated with heavyweight sleeping cars bringing up the markers of the otherwise all streamlined consist. Streamlining of the Premier All Pullman CRESCENT LIMITED would take place following WW II.
The Southern would streamline most of their trains following the war.
A lightweight streamlined NEW ROYAL PALM would operate between Cincinnati and Miami with cars originating in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland and Buffalo. But for some reason this train would never gain the popularity of the other Southern trains.
The Southerner would receive new cars following WW II, as would the TENNESSEAN. In fact following WW II the TENNESSEAN would become a fully streamlined train when the Southern received 14 Roomette 4 Double Bedroom Sleeping cars in October - November 1949 from Pullman Standard. These eleven cars were assigned to the TENESSEAN with two to each consist. One car was a New York - Memphis car, another a Washington - Memphis car. The extra 14-4 cars were assigned to the NEW ROYAL PALM between Buffalo and Miami. The 14-4 cars were assigned 2200 series numbers and given VALLEY suffix names.
14 ROOMETTE 4 DOUBLE BEDROOM SLEEPING CARS Pullman Standard October - November 1949 Plan: 4153C Lot: 6814 (Built for and assigned to TENNESSEAN)
2200 CASHIER’S VALLEY
2201 HIWASSEE VALLEY
2202 JAMES RIVER VALLEY
2203 MISSISSIPPI VALLEY
2204 PAINT ROCK VALLEY
2205 PIEDMONT VALLEY
2206 ROANOKE VALLEY
2207
ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!
PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #37
Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:
Chicago Great Western Railway (CGW)
Headquarters: Chicago (moved to Kansas City)
Mileage in 1950: 1,458
Locomotives in 1963:
Diesel: 141
Rolling stock in 1963:
Freight cars; 4,490
Passenger cars: 33
Principal routes in 1950:
Chicago-Olewein, IA-Omaha, NE
Oelwein-Minneapolis
Oelwein-DesMoines, IA-St. Joseph, MO-Kansas City, MO
Clarion, IA-Mason City, IA-Austin, MN-Hayfield, MN
Osage, IA-Rochester, MN-Red Wing, MN
Red Wing-Mankato, MN
Simpson-Winona, MN
Passenger trains of note:
Blue Bird (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Great Western Limited (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Rochester Special (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Red Bird (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Legionnaire (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Minnesotan (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Mills Cities Limited (Kansas City-Twin Cities)
Nebraska Limited (Twin Cities-Omaha
Twin Cities Limited (Omaha-Twin Cities)
Enjoy! [tup]
Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!
CHICAGO
GREAT
WESTERN
Streamlined Head End Cars
by Al
The Chicago Great Western purchased but three lightweight streamlined cars and these three delivered in November 1946 were Baggage Cars 80 – 82. They were assigned to General Service operating in the MILL CITY LIMITED and other CGW trains until passenger service ended. In March 1965 the three Baggage Cars were sold to the Great Northern Railway and renumbered 277 – 279. They were often seen running in the westbound EMPIRE BUILDER between St. Paul and Spokane.
BAGGAGE CARS Pullman Standard November 1946 (Built for and assigned to General Service)
80 – 82
TTFN Al
G’day!
A little light reading for anyone out there interested . . . .
Chicago Great Western - Corn Belt Route (CGW)
Later! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
Hiya Cap’n Tom
matey! Another most difficult RR to find anything on that isn’t as protected as the gold in Ft. Knox! [swg] Looks like even 20 Fingers only came up with a “shorty!” (Speaking of which - how come we’re not seeing much of you at the bar [?])
Caught your comments Art and hope you’ll be around next week as I’ll be away until mid week . . . [tup]
I haven’t a thing to offer this Saturday - but thought I’d swing by B4 going over to the bar with my ENCORE contribution!
Until the next time!
Lars 
G’day!
Nice to see ya Al 'n Lars!! [yeah] Al why so scarce at the bar these days [?]
A little something on the CGW . . . .
Later! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
The company just got hi-speed internet service instead of dial up so will be over on the other thread when at work instead of just at home. Just getting back to work and have a lot of catching up to do but will be back at the other thread in a day or two.Only problem with the office is that I don’t have ready access to my railroad material. By Monday things should be looking more like normal again.
TTFN Al
Yo Al
Are you saying that you CAN log on over here and post stuff but cannot do that over at the bar [?] Absolutely confused [%-)][%-)][%-)] - but then again, you guys from the left coast do have a different view of the world! [alien]
So, still with the Corn Belt I see. That just about leaves me outta the picture - so I’m going to resort to what I’m all about . . . . .
GN #1320 (from: www.trainweb.org)
GN #1321 (from: www.trainweb.org)
GN #1322 (from: www.trainweb.org)
GN #1323 (from: www.trainweb.com)
Wabash #200 (1956) (from: www.trainweb.org)
Amtrak #9560, former Wabash #200 (from: www.trainweb.org)
Amtrak #9561 former Wabash #201 (from: www.trainweb.org)
N&W #1611, former Wabash #201 (from: www.trainweb.org)
Until the next time, which probably will be Thursday!
Lars
G’day!
Nice spate of domes from Lars!
I think we’re going to have to add “Yogi” to the monikers carried by Al [swg]
Now, here’s a finale for the Corn Belt . . . .
CGW EMD F3 #115D freight (foto credit: unknown)
Later! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
G’day!
Okay - one more finale for the Corn Belt!!
CGW EMD F3 101A freight (foto credit: unknown)
That’s it for this day! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!
PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #38
Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:
Reading Lines
Headquarters: Philadelphia, PA
Mileage in 1950: 1,286
Locomotives in:
1930:
Steam: 930
Diesel: 2 (box cab switchers)
1963:
Steam 4
Diesel: 337
Rolling stock in
1930:
Freight cars: 43,298
Passenger cars: 910 (includes MU self-propelled)
1975:
Freight cars: 12,213
Passenger cars: 176 (includes MU self-propelled and RDCs)
Principal routes in 1950:
Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York via ferries, floats)
Philadelphia-Bethlehem, PA
Philadelphia-Reading, PA
Philadelphia & Camden-Atlantic City, NJ
Manville-Port Reading, NJ
Reading-Harrisburg, PA
Reading-Allentown, PA
Reading-Newberry Jct. (Williamsport), PA
Reading-Wilmington, DE
Harrisburg-Hagerstown, MD (through arrangement Hagerstown-Lurgan, PA)
Passenger trains of note:
Crusader (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Wall Street (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Schuylkill (Philadelphia-Pottsville, PA)
King Coal (Philadelphia-Shamokin, PA)
Harrisburg Special (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg
Queen of the Valley (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg)
North Penn (Philadelphia-Bethlehem
Enjoy! [tup]
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Reading
CRUSADER
(December 13, 1937)
90 miles
By Al
The Reading inaugurated the CRUSADER December 13, 1937 a five car stainless steel consist from Budd with a round end Observation at each end of the streamliner. The CRUSADER operated between Jersey City and Philadelphia on a twice-daily round trip schedule. A pair of 4-6-2 Pacific Locomotive’s and Tenders were streamlined with fluted stainless steel panels to match the trailing Budd built consist. The Tenders were rebuilt so the rounded Observation seemed to provide a smooth transition between the tender and the rest of the trailing train set. The CRUSADER covered the ninety miles between Jersey City and Philadelphia in a flat 90 minutes for an average speed of 60-mph. Because the CRUSADER was double ended it did not require turning at terminals. The Reading simply turned the power and reversed the seats in the cars for the return trip to Philadelphia. The two locomotives 117 and 118 were based in Philadelphia with one completing the Philadelphia – Jersey City morning round trip and the other completing the afternoon round trip. A pair of EMD FP7As operating back to back in 1948 replaced the Reading 117 and 118 streamlined Pacific Steam Locomotives originally assigned to the CRUSADER and the steam locomotives minus their streamlining were assigned elsewhere.
118 4-6-2 Streamlined Pacific Locomotive & Tender
1 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation with 14 seat Smoking Lounge
2 56 Revenue seat Coach with 14 seat Smoking Lounge
3 32-seat Dining 22 seat Lounge Car
4 56 Revenue seat Coach with 14 seat Smoking Lounge
5 56 Revenue seat Coach Observation with 14 seat Smoking Lounge
TTFN Al
G’day!
Surprised to see you here today, Al - and a Happy Father’s Day!
A Crusader Pix . . . .
Reading Railroad’s Crusader
(courtesy: www.caboosenut.com - foto credit: unknown)
Later! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
G’day!
Slow day - which is GOOD - after all, the fathers out there should be doing something much more worthwhile with their time on this day! [swg]
MIne are grown, gone and not here . . . so - here I am!
Reading Railroad’s Crusader (foto credit: unknown)
Later (maybe!) [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]
Hiya Tom and Happy Father’s Day!
I didn’t think I’d make it “in” today . . . Surprise, surprise - I have a pix for today’s “theme!”! [yeah]
Reading: F7A 271
(1978) (from: www.readingrailroad.org)
Until the next time (which will probably be Thursday)!
Lars
Going to miss your posts over here Lars will try and contribute as long as Tome doesn’t get to obscure with his picks of railroads.
Enjoyed the Crusade Pictures Tom When the CN purchased the Crusader conest they remodeled it and gave the entire consist a black window band then renamed it the Champlain? and assigned it to Montreal - Quebec City service. Eventually the cars were operated throughout the Quebec City - Winsor corridor and separted could be found in just about any of the Toronto- Windsor and Toronto - Sarnia trains with regular CN equipment. Several of the original Crusader cars found their way to museums after sale by Via Rail.
ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE! ENCORE!
PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG #39
Here’s another Passenger RR Fallen Flag from Classic American Railroads:
Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville - Monon (The Hoosier Line)
Headquarters: Chicago, IL
Mileage in 1950: 573
Locomotives in 1951
Diesel: 57
Rolling stock in 1951:
Freight cars: 2,609
Passenger cars: 59
Principal routes in 1950:
Chicago-Indianapolis
Louisville-Michigan City
Wallace Junction-Midland
Orleans-French Lick
Passenger trains of note:
Bluegrass (Chicago-Louisville)
Chicago Limited (Indianpolis-Chicago)
Day Express (Chicago-Louisville)
Daylight Limited (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Executive (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Hoosier (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Hoosier Limited (Chicago-French Lick)
Night Express (Chicago-Louisville)
Thoroughbred (Chicago-Louisville)
Tippecanoe (Chicago-Indianapolis)
Varsity (Chicago-Bloomington)
Velvet Train (Chicago-Cincinnati)
Mid-Night Special (Chicago-Cincinnati)
Of note:
Trains east of Indianapolis handled by Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton
Monon operated on Chicago & Western Indiana tracks between Hammond and Dearborn Station.
Monon operated on Kentucky & Indiana Terminal tracks between New Albany-Youngstown Yard-Union Station.
Enjoy! [tup]
Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
ENC
CHICAGO
INDIANAPOLIS
&
LOUISVILLE
(C&IL)
Streamlined Dining & Lounge Cars
by Al
Better known as the Monon the C&IL operated passenger services between Chicago and Indianapolis and Chicago and Louisville. The railroad purchased no lightweight streamlined equipment prior to WW II. Following the war the government made available to the railroads 100 U.S. Army Hospital cars built by American Car & Foundry in 1944-45.
These cars rode on six wheel trucks but otherwise could be considered streamlined. They would require extensive rebuilding to become streamlined passenger equipment but the surplus price tag of $16,500.00 per car made them attractive to several railroads including the Alaska Railroad (32), Atlantic Coast Line (10), Southern Pacific (5) and Monon (28). Even the Ringling Brothers Circus purchased twenty-five of the surplus cars for their circus trains.
The Monon shops in Lafayette were given the task of rebuilding the cars into streamlined equipment for the Monon. Famed industrial designer Raymond Loewy was commissioned to design the interiors of the surplus equipment. Ten of the cars were rebuilt to feature cars.
Three of these were rebuilt to 24-seat dining bar 20-seat tavern lounge cars. The first of these was rebuilt in November 1947 and numbered 51. This car was assigned to the new streamlined HOOSIER inaugurated August 17, 1947 round trip between Indianapolis and Chicago. Car 51 was retired from service in 1959.
24-seat dining bar
20-seat tavern lounge car
51 originally U.S. Army 89389
An identical car to 51 numbered 52 was completed in November 1947 for the TIPPECANOE streamlined train between Chicago and Indianapolis round trip daily inaugurated November 15, 1947. This car lasted until 1959 when it was retired.
24-seat dining bar
20-seat tavern lounge car
52 originally U.S. Army 89379
In April 1948 the Lafayett
G’day!
I see Al - 20 Fingers - Yogi has made it in! [swg] [tup] Always good stuff and always appreciated! [tup]
Check this out:
Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville (MONON) map
(courtesy: www.mononrr.com)
To enlarge, CLICK the URL:
http://mononrr.com/mimages/maps/map_01.gif
Later! [tup]
Tom[4:-)] [oX)]