Hi,I am absolutely keen on knowing whether the air whistles used on New York electrics were of crosby design as they bore some resemblance to their modern designs introduced without the acorn structure on top of the bell while some one told me that they looked like crosbys but were shop made and were 3 chime.
The best I can offer is a decent roof-view of an as-built C.U.T. P-1-a with a good look at a new whistle:
P1A_1050_roof by Edmund, on Flickr
I don’t see any reason these whistles weren’t retained after their 1954 rebuild and movement to the Harmon Electric Zone.
I did notice that on some of the New York-area ‘motors’ there was an inverted cone at the base of the whistle. Was this to aid in the sound output of the whistle (similar to the ‘reflector’ used on some Hancock Air Whistles?) or was it to aid in the prevention of ice buildup?
It’s up to you to determine the manufacturer, sorry, I don’t follow such details closely. It is widely known that the New York Central and Pennsylvania both produced a majority of their appliances ‘in house’.
Studying photos of the S and T class motors I see some with two distinct whistles at each end. One being taller and slimmer and the second being short and fat! It would certainly be interesting to know the logic behind that observation.
Here’s a photo of an R-2 I found depicting the ‘fatter’ whistle just behind the headlight:
New York Central Electric locomotive #337 001 by John W. Barriger III National Railroad Library, on Flickr
This view of an S motor shows the ‘skinny’ whistle with the pie tin at the bottom on the #2 end with the short, fat whisthe on the #1 end.
NYC S-2 132 by Joe McMillan, on Flickr
Good Luck, Ed
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Thanks, I know clearly that those skinny whistles were Westinghouse/GE trombone whistles on s motors however some s motors had that Crosby like whistle custom made at NYC shops and these custom-made ones sounded exactly like steam locomotive ones on air even really similar to Hancock ones as they were probably meant to emulate steam locomotive whistles and I am equally aware that the Cleveland Union Terminal had two whistles one GE clarion whistle and a GE/WABCO bell type whistle as is listed in their catalogue however do you know anyone on this forum who has indepth knowledge about air whistles resembling steam whistles used on early electric locomotives during the steam era boxcabs and steeple cabs.
thanks
I know that New Haven electrics used crosby air whistles 3 chime with 2inch diameter is this true as I have seen in photos.