All the Boston Type 5 Car photos you could want

!950 weekday viewe of City Point Carhouse. Type 5s for lines City Point to South Station, to Dudlry, and rush hours Dudley - Massachusetts Station. Type 4s left for City Point - Morth Station vuia Subway. All-Electric PCCs based here, but all were in-service to North Station asnd to Dudley.

In 1949, lower level, street level, of Forest Hills Station, south terminal of the elevated line above. A Type 5 just out of the Arborway loop, is enterning enroute to Cleary Square. John Stern is to my left:

Thanks for posting all these great Boston trolley pics in your threads.

I grew up in Mattapan during the 50s and 60s, and since my family didn’t have a car, I spent quite a bit of time on the trolleys and subways - it was obviously where and why I became a railfan. (Several PCC cars share my layouts with other locomotives.)

Check out my web site for more info.

Pauley

In one of the Boston threads we talked about the Boston, Revere Beach, and Lynn narrow gauge trolleys. I just read that some of that passenger equipment wound up on the Oahu Railway in Hawaii during WWII.

Correct. Way back when, an early issue of Trains had an article on this. Perhaps Classic Trains should resurrect it!

The only single track line, with an unusual operating arrangement during rush hours, as told in Bradley Clark’s Boston’s MTA book.

Actually, the very lst E. Boston line to cease streetcar service. Why? The very last scheduled car into Maverick Station was a Revere via Broadway and Chelsie Avenue. I think it used Revere St., Not Beachb St. in revere, but my memory is not certain on that, although I rode it.

What was a complete surprise, however, was that at Day Square, instead of proceeding directly to Maverich, we turned right. looped completely around Eagle Street Carhouse, and ran down Lexington Avenue rto Maverick We were told that wire work in progress at Day Squa

That railroad wound up being a significant factor in my hobby.

From my web site:

Many years ago, I owned a graphics company in Glendale, California, called Boston Type (I’m from Boston and we provided typesetting services). Since I already had a URL (web address) and a hardly-used web site (which was not train-related) I thought it would be a fast track to get this project rolling. It turned into the perfect inclement weather/pandemic pastime.

It occurred to me to search for the phrase “Boston Type” to see if, by any chance, it had any train-related connection. To my great surprise, Whyte notation (a classification method for steam locomotives) does include a “Boston Type” with a 2-4-4 wheel configuration originally used in England.

Not only that, but it turns out that several 2-4-4s ran (by coincidence more than any other reason I can think of) on a short Boston-area narrow gauge railroad in the early 1900s. And as another bonus to me, the Boston, Revere Beach and Lynn Railroad eventually became part of Boston’s rapid transit system (the Blue Line) that I rode as a kid.

Wow! How cool is that?

The 2-4-4T Boston type seems to have been an outgrowth of the 0-4-4T Forney type. For the BRB&L they were built by Alco Manchester and also Mason Machine Works in the form of Mason Bogies. A number of 0-4-4T and 2-4-4T locos were also built for the Maine 2 foot narrow gauge lines.

I probably need to qualify my earlier post. In the Classic Trains special edition (2019) Trains Go to War in the chapter on the Oahu Ry “… the trucks under some passenger coaches carry the cast iron BRB&L of the old Boston, Revere Beach & Lynn…” I assumed the coaches were from BRB&L, but Wiki says the Boston coaches were burned and the metal salvaged, so maybe it’s just the trucks that went to Hawaii.

Wicki is not always 100% reliable. My best guess is that the eight or ten trailer coaches, with their origanal two BRB&L MCB drop-equalizer-type trucks did go to Oahu; and the the larger fleet of motor cars, with one truck of the two originals repolaced with a two-motor Brill E-77-type leaf-spring truck (and seating capacity reduced by the interior engineer’s cabs at each end) were those that were burned and metal salvaged. All were wood, open-platform cars.

Two are at Forest Hilla, and one at The Arborway Yard:

Possibly Eggleston, not Forest Hills. Still a qustion.

Votes of emailers appear Forest Hills, but hope to get a definitive answer. Mean-while, south of Revere:

A bit of an improvement of the previous photo, and another Type 5 in the same general area in Revere. The first photo’s streetcar has Revere Beach, Express (to) Ocean Heights, thec second Revere Beach via Ocean Hights.

South of Revere, north of Oriernt Hei8ghts, thisc trestle carried Bay State Electric Revere Beach - Orient Heights streetcars, then Eastern Massachusetts streetcars extended without stops over Boston Elevated tracks to the East Boston (now Blue Line) Rapid Transit Maverick terminal. In 1936 the Boston Elevated took over, trolley buses on a nearby road in 1952, and they are gone. The narrow-gauge Boston Revere Beach and Lynn had a parallel bridge just east of this, and for some 40 years the Blue Line has a hadf replacement bridge there:

As I first poxsted, indeed at Forest Hills. Richard Allman informs us that the photos are south of the station, with Hyde Park Avenue the tracks on the left.

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In the Forest Hills Station, street-level. outbound (south) departire platform, Johm Stern at left.

Mattapan Station, again,

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