A Bloomberg news video on passenger rail.
On both coasts: Maybe.
Between the Appalachians and the Sierra Nevada, No.
Jus’ sayin’, after a lifetime of waiting.
On balance this is a good overview
One of the ways to get approximately $525 million a year to help develop the corridors where passenger rail can be viable is to get rid of the long-distance trains.
Most young people, I suspect, don’t have a bad impression about passenger rail. In most parts of the country they have never used it. But hearing the horror stories about late running, poorly service long-distance trains is not likely to get them to think positively about train travel.
Americans are ready to love trains again, but only if they’re lovable.
Brightline, soon to be Virgin, is certainly trying. Amtrak, I’m not so sure.
What’s going on with Brightline?
Here in da midwest aka Flyover country…We dont exist. No day trains in Ohio and Iowas stations are far from the population centers
I sure hope that when it becomes Virgin they will adopt a livery with some dignity. Their current scheme makes me cringe.
As I understand it they’ve been very successful so far, which is why they’ve attracted Sir Richard Branson’s (Virgin) attention. He’s been pretty good at picking winners to buy into.
The only “burp” Brightline’s had to my knowledge is not accepting cash for fares, but I believe that’s been corrected. Cash is legal tender after all, and as far as I know merchants, vendors, and others have to accept it.
The reason for Bloomberg news doing this feature is political. If anyone has follwed Boss Bloomberg’s political proposals he has already committed to having the CA high speed rail completely finished and also having another one done by 2025. He also wants a high speed line coast to coast by 2030. I personally don’t care for spending Federal tax dollars to bail out CA’s mistake and I can’t see how having one coast-to-coast 2,800-3,000 mile HS rail would be anything but a major financial disaster for the taxpayer. I could see something in the distance future like NYC to Chicago HS RR but even that would cost hundreds of billions to build and probably have to have annual operating subsidies. Also, unless you change all the environmental rules and other red tape, it could take 10-20 years before you could even turn a shovel of dirt for it.
Governor Brown left CA with a big mess with his HS rail and I suspect a President Bloomberg would leave the country in a mess if he were to get what he wants with HS rail.
What, you don’t like the mustard drippings on the nose?
Actually, I don’t like most of the paint schemes they’ve come up with the last decade or two. I think I get that they’re trying to appeal to youngsters with the bright colors and wild patterns, but to an old timer like me, you can’t beat the looks of the sleek streamliners of six or seven decades ago.
To say nothing of the almost-obligate Vergara-ish clown-suit styling of almost any modern ‘passenger’ power. Almost as if designers are doing the Super Bowl commercial version of the ‘watch how I can waste taxpayer dollars on meaningless wacky appearance and paint schemes’ portfolio-building ego stroke.
(I have never much cared for the esthetics of the Helvetica typeface, but tolerated it for a while on signage as a ‘cheap’ modern sans face. Imagine my surprise when I found out just how complex it is to paint those letterforms! Much more attractive faces are much easier to produce!)
I’d be happy enough if they went with a modified version of the airplane livery.
https://blog.virginatlantic.com/happy-birthday-to-the-boeing-747/
But whatever they do, *let’s hope they won’t use any modified versions of the Virgin Trains livery!*
Down, Sabrina! Bad girl! Down!!
I can’t see their Christmas train without thinking “Hey, Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat!” or look at the East Coast HSTs without remembering Starsky and Hutch and becoming thirsty for a good cold Coke from that big horizontal vending machine.
Not to make anyone nervous, but I can find nothing official from Virgin, in a fairly substantial amount of their ‘collateral’ regarding Brightline, that even hints at a different livery for the trains as ‘rebadged’ … [:O]
I wouldn’t mind the mustard drippings on tne nose if it was brown mustard, Guldens, Kosciusko, Grey Poupon, Boar’s Head, well, you get the picture.
I’ll use yellow mustard if that’s all that’s available.
And I’m with Paul, those vintage diesel color schemes were classic. Considering just how well they work on modern diesels like the various “Heritage” units shows what geniuses the design folks at GM, Alco, and others really were.
How about Tuscan Red? It works for me!
Or New York Central 2-tone grey?
Charlie- A good choice- you’re on to something. How about Brunswick Green? It looked fantastic on GG1s. And you can’t beat the Brightline Warbonnet scheme!
I said way back when, and I still say, this oughta be what Norfolk Southern uses – you can mix the necessary colors from white and black stock. (It was the right solution for the D&H Sharks, too, whether in grayscale or blue and yellow…)
But there’s a still better NYC-based color answer, and it preserves the sunshine aspect:
As someone noted about it on the railpictures.net site: Looks modern even today. Picks up on the blue ocean, too…
Not bad, not bad at all, although I’m still not too crazy about the yellow nose.
Possibly, going with the “sea and sand” theme, a sand color to go with the blue, dark at the nose and gradually tapering toward the rear? It looks like they’re almost there with that NYC scheme.
Tuscan Red? NYC two-tone grey? Good choices boys, very classic, but considering Brightline’s a Florida train I’d be more inclined to the old Seaboard’s “Citrus” scheme, or the Atlantic Coast Line’s silver and purple. Both Florida 'roads, with a strong Florida history.
Seaboard “Citrus” http://www.streamlinermemories.info/FL/OBS1.jpg
ACL’s “Champion” http://www.streamlinermemories.info/FL/ChampionPC.pdf
I’ve never seen a piece of NYC rolling stock in that livery. How widespread was it? And during what years?