Recently got a mint IR 4-4-2 to use when I set up track for a grandson visit. It has has “digital bell & whistle,” I have a Lionel 1033 transformer, but the whistle doesn’t seem to operate operate. I’m going to upgrade the old disc rectifier with a new diode, but I’m wondering if there is any mod I can do to make this transformer work both the bell and whistle on this engine. If not, what are my alternatives?
Welcome, LititzDB!
I am not familiar with the IR engine or its electronics. The 1033 is designed to impose a DC offset onto the track power, which triggers the whistle motor. When, in the modern era, Lionel first added the bell to its engines, it controlled them with another DC offset using the other polarity. I do not remember which was which, but one used + and the other used -.
A first attempt to see if the transformer will trigger the whistle will be to reverse the wires to the track and then hit the lever again.
If this works, then you need a Lionel Bell controller button–I don’t know the Part Number, but someone here will–to wire between the transformer and the track. The lever will blow one; the button will blow the other.
If this doesn’t work, it means that, either the IR electronics need another controller or there is a problem with the transformer or engine (Mint not being a guarantee or Working).
I hope this helps and that someone else will correct any errors I have made.
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Welcome to the forums! As palallin mentioned, if the bell or whistle is controlled with DC, then you can indeed try reversing polarity. However, you don’t necessarily need to buy a bell controller. It’s entirely possible to use a battery to serve the same purpose! Here’s a wiring diagram (if this activates the whistle instead of the bell you can flip the battery around to fix it).
I did try hooking a 7V DC power source directly to the track, with the transformer off, but the engine began to move. It has an on-board rectifier and a DC can motor. Perhaps that complicates this solution. So I quickly disconnected. Maybe a smalle DC voltage might work. I’ve seen a diagram for something similar to what you suggest, using 2 D cells in series and a DPDT switch to reverse polarity to bell or whistle. I’ll try lower DC voltage.
7 volts is probably too much and you should also have AC power as well as otherwise you might not have enough power to actually run the circuitry. Two D cells would also work–and, for stubborn old whistle relays, are better–and the DPDT switch is good with a small transformer, but since yours already has a whistle/horn control you don’t need the switch. Also, I don’t think that the rectifier would cause a problem as some of my locos like my Dash 8 and my SD18 are can-motored and, of course, have a rectifier. In theory, you could run it on DC but it would blow the whistle/horn or bell all the time!
I’ve had the same problem and with mine it was just as simple as reversing wires at the lock on. May not be your problem but it’s certainly easy to try 