Bachman GE 44 ton switcher problems.

Can anyone tell me if this is normal? I have a Bachman GE 44 ton switcher, DCC, item # 62209. Since I bought it it has always been VERY sluggish to get started. I have to crank up the cab to ALMOST full power to get it moving. Once moving it will operate okay but it seems like it lags a lot and is not smooth, it lurches and such. I opened it tonight and noticed it has cheesy worm gears driving the wheels. Could this be part of the problem? Is it just a lousy, cheap, loco? Can I fix it by reprogramming a CV or two?

Thanks.

Paul the VERY new newbie.

Sounds like maybe a cracked gear. That does happen with the two motor and sometimes, the single motor. Since yours is the DCC, it is the single motor.

Are you running this loco on DC or DCC? If DC, dual mode decoders require more voltage than a non decoder loco.

Dirty track and wheels can also cause running issues. Not looks clean but have actually been cleaned.

Rich

I have a couple 44 tonners. The worm gears are NOT cheesy. Mine work quite well with a sound decoder. They start moving at about 1 mph.

Rich

The locomotive itself is grand. The decoder is typical Bachmann, cheap. I replaced with with an N/Z scale Train Control Systems decoder. If interested I can try to post pics or just email them to you. It instantly changed this thing into a little beast. You can use other brands I just already have bunch of locos with Digitrax and decided I wanted something different.

On the other hand making sure the gears are properly lubricrated, giving the little loco a good break, and monkeying around with V start (CV3 IIRC) may help. Like I said, the loco is great, just not the Bachmann decoder. I doubt you would have problems if you wired for DC.

Hi Rich and thanks.

This is a single motor I think. There is a worm gear system on each truck.

Just DCC.

Track is brand new and very clean and the loco is new and has only been run a couple of times. Wheel are clean.

Well, I certainly didn’t intend on stepping on anyone’s toes. It just looks kind of cheesy to me that’s all. No offense.

If you are running it on DCC, do a decoder reset.

Also, clip the yellow blob capacitors.They are known to cause running issues.

The trucks are easy to remove. Motor is easy to remove, also.

Do some troubleshooting.

Rich

Perhaps that’s it. Yes, please email some photos. You can send a PM and I’ll send my email address I guess.

I guess I should replace the decoder then.

Does yours have an added decoder or the original Bachmann decoder? Those are not the best.

Rich

TCS are very good decoders, by the way. Many use them. You have another issue.

Rich

Sending a photo as soon as I upload it to PB.

Don’t see any yellow caps.

Since you are on line, clip any yellow blob caps and do a decoder reset. CV8, enter 8.

Rich

Are the caps under the heat shrink?

Oops. Someone else here. I will let him finish this.

Rich

LION has two of these locomotives which I bought more than a year ago. The have not even been around my layout even once. I will treat them like I do my subway cars: I will remove the entire circuit board and wire the motors directly to the wheels. When I decide on what consist they will pull, I will train-line them to the tail car and give the train all wheel pickup.

ROAR

I have an NCE DCC and the book is hard to decipher. I haven’t programmed any CV’s yet. Exactly how do I get to and use CV 8?

Ummm, okay, how? I’ve never done this.

I have not yet done this to these locomotives, but on the Walther subway cars I just remove the entire circuit board and just wire the motors directly to the wheels.

To train line a set is more complicated, you would have to remove the couplers, install draw-bars and hard wire the cars together from one end of the train to the other. On my subway consists there are six-car lash-ups, and I needed to build a special foam jig just to move the cars from bench to table. But with 48 wheel power pick-up there is never any hesitation.

Nothing advanced here.

I built my own circuit boards to provide continous lighting even when the train is stopped. I’ll let you know how I did that once I can make it do what I want. [:$]

ROAR

No, HOW do you wire the motors directly to the wheels? This might be too much to go into right now.

I’m still trying to figure out how to program CV’s with my NCE DCC CAB. I changed the numbers of the locos but haven’t had any luck changing CV parameters. I guess I need to read up on it some more.

Basically, doing this will bypass the decoder. Not a good thing if you are using DCC.

Brad