Cant log in on computer

Why are your posts in a gray box with white text? Did you change something?

I figure that something got hosed on the server and I.T. reset everything to a recent backup.

Now that I am retired, I thought I’d spend a little time getting cozy with HTML

There is a practical side to it, as well.

What? Confusing others?

Ohn, I do believe I’ve found a critic!! [(-D]

Just our normal Kalmbach IT yearly fiasco.

WHOOPS! End of day and I cannot log-out! Click the ‘"Logout’ link and the screen just blinks. I will try to clear all cookies and cache and see what happens tomorrow when I turn the cornphewtor on to start the day.

Apparently clearing all cookies and deleting the cache (which I do every evening just before I turn the computer off, using “CCleaner”) made the system think I was logged-off. Seems the Logout link is broke.

I’ve been using Knoppix for all my web activity since mid February. (Knoppix is a version of Linux that boots and runs from a CD/DVD disc).

One of the big pluses as such…, any new cookies, viruses, or other noxious material that any website might try to plant on my system only get’s written to memory (they can’t write to my disc). All that crud goes away whenever I shut down and restart my system, Anytime I start my system, it starts in the same pristine condition it was when I burnt the disc 5 months ago.

So, this gives me an interesting sense of self assurance when those customer service reps try to disown responsibility claiming any trouble must be on my end.

I went an extra step when I created my disc, I first booted the system, then imported all my old bookmarks from my previous system, then I accessd all my regular websites that require me to log on, thus getting an initial cookie that includes my log-on information,… set on my system. I then “remastered” the entire system and burnt it to disc including all my particulars. It’s been running like a charm since February.

I guess this set-up gives me immunity to the cookie monster, and a few other common bad guys out there

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At least it wasn’t the same level as what happened to Twitter yesterday.

I have an odd problem.

I normally use Microsoft Edge as a browser. Normally my password is recorded and I’m logged in automatically. Now I’m not logged in and if I try to log in I just get returned to the not logged in page. I tried manually changing my password, but got a letter case wrong and was told my login details were wrong. When I correctted it I was just back to the not logged in page.

So my password was correct, Edge just can’t log me in.

As you will have observed, I’m logged in. I can log in manually on Explorer.

How can one Microsoft browser work and not the other?

Any ideas?

Peter

They handle cookies differently.

Renember that the ‘session cookie’ has to identify you securely across multiple accesses, but without mistakenly permitting you ‘in’ when your access has been revoked. Periodically any good organization will cancel persistent logins … the time being related to security. If you responded to the FRA employment opportunity, for example, only half an hour without ‘traffic’ from you results in your being kicked off.

Note that in the ‘good old days’ this could be done by physically setting something in your “client software” – actually deleting cookies that are good no more. In our modern age of entitlement, applications can set cookies, but not delete them; what happens instead is that the internal recognition is changed.

Now, a well-written application would check to see if key cookies were set and give a user the option to overwrite them. In the ‘Alan Kay’ model of security (where the most “secure” systems are those you don’t know exist, let alone are using) this would be innocently framed in terms of something like ‘reset Kalmbach access permissions’ – note that this would be browser-specific, as the cookies or data to be reset would be, and you would have to do this each time you used a different browser you’d logged into under the old login.

Now the ‘old’ version of persistent login worked across platforms: I believe this is now treated as a ‘security hole’ by some modern browsers much as using straight http:// instead of https is.

In short, going into Edge settings, deleting all the Kalmbach set cookies, and flushing the cache and saved pages should definitively fix this and future repetitions. As I don’t use any machines that run Edge I can’t give you detailed instructions, but others have done that.