D&RGW Narrow Gauge?
Mark
Nope, but now you are in the right valley. Durango → Silverton → ???
The Silverton Railroad, The Rainbow Route. I’ve eliminated all the other possibilities so this must be the one. The 5% grade hint gave it away.
Mark
William Henry Jackson photos @ Denver Public Library www.photoswest.org
D&RGWP map http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/1930_D%26RGW_WP.jpg
Yup yup yup, It was probably too soon to drop the 5% grade hint.
At this time there were four railroads serving Silverton. If a model railroader really likes narrow gauge, Silverton from 1877 to 1910 is the place to consider modeling. In 1896 the fourth railroad was built out of the town.
Your turn.
On the map notice the three railroads departing north out of Silverton. This would have been the one farthest to the west, to Red Mountain & Ironton.
The Silverton Northern Railroad.
Next question should be an easy one. In 1940 three streamlined trains were put in service running between Chicago and Florida. The trainset of one of these had previously been in service on a different route. When was this trainset first put in service, what was its original route and train name?
Mark
On 12-3-1939, the Florida East Coast began operating the Henry M. Flagler in daily round trip service between Miami and Jacksonville. On 12-17-1940, the consist began operating as the Dixie Flagler, running in every third day service in conjunction with the South Wind (12-19) and the City of Miami (12-18).
Right on all counts Deggesty. Your turn to ask the next question. The Flagler’s seven car consist was: baggage/22 seat coach - Stuart, two 60 seat coaches - Hollywood & Hobe Sound, diner - Ft. Lauderdale, 60 seat coach - Melbourne, 52 seat coach - Delray Beach, and tavern/observation - Lake Worth. The FEC’s first diesel electric engine, E-3 No. 1001, headed the train.
Mark
It was really easy.
According to From Zephyr to Amtrak, the coach, Delray Beach, had a hostess room (thus, only 52 seats instead of 60).
My new question:
What configuration of sleeper was built for ACL (PRR, RF&P, and FEC also ordered cars of theis type) trains only and to what configuration were they changed eleven years later?
These were the ACL River series sleepers built by AC&F containing 14 Roomettes and 2 Drawing rooms.The cars were constructed to Plan 9006 and delivered in February March 1950 in Lot 3091. ACL cars were named ASHLEY RIVER, CAPE FEAR RIVER, COOPER RIVER, MANATEE RIVER, OGEECHEE RIVER and SUWANEE RIVER. In addition the FEC received a single car of this type built in Lot 3096 and named PANAMA, the PRR rceived two cars in Lot 3098 ANACOSTIA RIVER and HACKENSACK RIVER, and the other was RF&P car lot 3094 FAIRFAX RIVER.
The ACL owned cars were rebuilt to plan 9018 in 1961 containing 7 Double Bedrooms and 2 Drawing Rooms. They were renamed to Bird series cars at that time. The cars were rebuilt in the following order.
MANATEE RIVER 4/61 renamed RICE BIRD
SUWANEE RIVER 7/61 renamed SURF BIRD
CAPE FEAR RIVER 7/61 renamed BLUE BIRD
OGEECHEE RIVER 7/61 renamed HUMMING BIRD
ASHLEY RIVER 9/61 renamed HONEY BIRD
COOPER RIVER 10/61 renamed JAY BIRD
Al - in - Stockton
Right you are, Al. The roomette-drawing room sleeper was not as popular as th ACL had hoped, as more passengers wanted bedrroms rather than roomettes.
Now, what question have you to cause us to rack our brains or go to our source books?
In 1954 the CPR and CNR rebuilt Tourist Sleepers for there new trains The Canadian and The Super Continental. The CNR cars were more extensively rebuilt than there CPR counterparts. Name them?
Al - in - Stockton
PS Just back from Disneyworld yesterday.
Well I know there is nothing in my brain on this subject to rack it for, so it is off to the reference materials.
Time for a hint. There were 31 CNR cars and 22 CPR cars. Hope that helps. All were heavyweights and rode on six wheel trucks and the CPR cars were equipped with SS panels to match the Budd car sides and retained there Clerestory Roofs. The CNR cars were more extensively rebuilt given streamlined roofs and sides with Thermopane windows to match the streamlined cars coming from P/S CC&F and NSC.
Al - in - Stockton
The CP cars: Udall, Uganda, Ullswater, Ulster, Ulysses, Umber, Underwood, Unicorn, Unity, Universe, Unwin, Uplands, Upsala, Upton, Uranus, Urban, Uren, Urquhart, Usher, Utica, Utopia, Uxbridge The CN Cars: Point Alconi, Pointe Basse, Pointe Bleue, Pointe De Bute, Point Calumet, Pointe Carre, Pointe Du Chene, Pointe Claire, Point Comfort, Point Crewe, Point Cross, Point Edward, Pointe Au Gaul, Point Gardiner, Point Grey, Point Ideal, Point Lance, Pointe Lebel, Point May, Pointe Michaud, Pointe Des Monts, Pointe Navarre, Pointe La Nim, Pointe Parent, Pointe Au Pic, Pointe Platon, Point Prim, Pointe De Roche, Pointe Sapin, Point Tupper, Point Wolfe
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The CP cars: Udall, Uganda, Ullswater, Ulster, Ulysses, Umber, Underwood, Unicorn, Unity, Universe, Unwin, Uplands, Upsala, Upton,
Next question:
We all know about the Union Pacific City trains. Give me at least 10 train names that began with “City of” that the Union Pacific was NOT involved in.
Well, of course there was the City of New Orleans.
Then Wabash had the City of Kansas City (I always thought was a fairly stupid name).
City of Milwalkee 400 - CNW.
That’s all I know off the top of my head but a little research reviels -
City of Miami - IC/ACL/CoG/FEC
City of Decatur - ITR
City of Cleveland - NKP
City of Chicago - NKP
That still leaves at least three. Hmmmm.