These are really nice…, from Mike … luv the bananas picture, also great article Last thread.
http://imagescn.techno-science.ca/_images/common/photos/original/CN001681.jpg Somers
http://imagescn.techno-science.ca/_images/common/photos/original/CN001658.jpg Hawkins
http://imagescn.techno-science.ca/_images/common/photos/original/CN000208.jpg Nelson
http://imagescn.techno-science.ca/_images/common/photos/original/CN001679.jpg Nelson
Some good stuff here too: https://www.cruiselinehistory.com/ss-city-of-cleveland-on-a-labor-day-cruise-in-1947/ Search “great lakes” on the main page for more articles. Site is by one of the writers from “The Love Boat”.
From what I’ve read there’s no buildings on the Halifax waterfront that date from before December 6th 1917. Absolutely none.
The Mont Blanc explosion’s been compared to what we’d call today a “tactical nuke.”
Wow. Never heard that “tactical nuke” reference before. They discovered the hard way what ammonium nitrate and fuel oil brought together is all about. That is still what we use underground for blasting, nicknamed ‘Anfo’ by everyone. Colour coded by country too… USA uses green beads, we use pink.
Nice boat Penny. What a beauty.
From the Noronic article " at one time there were more people asleep on boats on the Great Lakes than on any ocean in the world".
I’m sure I have seen the SS City of Cleveland at some point in Port Dover as a kid. Distinctly remember it was a big deal when the “big boat from Cleveland” visited on special occasions.
Also … Jones 1945- Thanks for the SS Normandie clip. That is just stupendous. It reflects a whole culture and a nation. What I would give to spend 24 hours in the day. Think I would have trouble just breathing!
So we lost our magnificient ships, our Steamship lines, the look to the future of steam with all what we have been discussing, many of our stations, sleeping and dining car services to everywhere, fully functional extensive Interurban and streetcar services everywhere, the great names of our railroads and our trains, and so on, all under the banner of progress and expediency. What a load of crap!
I suppose next someone is going to tell me that Gov’t mandated food guidelines have in no way contributed to obesity and diabetes epidemics and that we are all so much healthier now. People aren’t dropping dead of heart attacks at 58 or 63 anymore because someone figured out that childrens aspirin will save your sorry butt.
Pennsylvania Station is gone, the indestructible Pennsylvania RailRoad is gone, the mighty New York Central is gone, … where is the Lackawanna and the Lehigh Valley? The Minneapolis and St Louis? The Monon? The Pacific Electric? Did we suffer a North America wide nuclear attack? What hath God wrought!!!
The explosion happened off the north part of Halifax. Closer to downtown there are a number of older buildings along the waterfront in an area called the Historic Properties.
I like the length of the grand stair and the atrium of SS City of Cleveland which brought natural light deep inside the ship. Bright sunlight always makes objects look fresh and lively. If only I could still have the chance to traveling by big steamboat and steam train on the same trip…
You are very welcome, Vince. I am glad to see that more and more videos from the past being uploaded on different platforms including YouTube.
I totally agree with you that the human race missed a lot of great things in the past 100 years. If the concept of planned obsolescence is part of this so-called progress, I would rather be stuck in the 1930s forever! I love innovative ideas and everything that I think it is beautiful. But, unfortunately, for me, I am never a big friend of contemporary design and style. I am glad to see human right
Yes it’s a complicated thing. People use the word cheaper everyday as in “it’s cheaper this way” or “it’s cheaper to produce” , “cheaper to buy” so much so it has become a normal part of everyday conversation.
Cheaper means poorly made, poorly constructed, inferior quality, not meant to last. I use the word ‘less expensive’ if it applies as it gives a comparison. It denotes efficiency and smart application to offer a service or product with less expense. Not cheapness.
Life had a nice pace to it. The rat race and cheapness became the order of the day. Things went too fast. We lost too much and we disposed of much what was solid, so much of the fabric of society, so much what was built and was normal and necessary. Now we have the .1%, a far smaller and shrinking middle class, whom exist to serve only the .1% at their whim. This was planned, this was marketed, this was sold to all.
The Pennsy is gone, S1 is scrapped along with 100,000 rebuilt perfectly fine, many new, steam locomotives so we were told they were “war weary”, streetcar lines were tore up, Packers are no more as are so many diverse car companies, the CMSt.P&P is obliterated off the planet, competition was eliminated and we squeeze into sardine cans with people wearing their pyjamas, delays the norm, and mayhem at the terminals along with extra everything costs that are usary yet most folks defend that!, a generation has turned their back on Capitalism because it did/does nothing for them.
It’s cheaper all right. Big time.
Check out these Menu’s. We can imagine. Sept 9 menu lists ‘grapenuts ice cream’…not sure what that is but it sounds crunchy. Does anyone still offer this?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Jj8AAOSw5cBa00hP/s-l1600.jpg postcard
Sept. 2, 1935
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/DHIAAOSwlMFZEMiQ/s-l1600.jpg front cover
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/FdIAAOSww9xZEMh6/s-l1600.jpg menu
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qNAAAOSwnONZEMid/s-l1600.jpg story on back
Sept. 3, 1935
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cQ4AAOSwPh5ZENFW/s-l1600.jpg
GrapeNuts was, and I think still may be, a Post breakfast cereal. “Crunch” is kind of an understatement for its mouth feel; I’m tempted to quote the old Playboy review of Laphroaig single-malt: “it takes a verra determined laddie to get that stoof doon”…
I’d suspect ‘GrapeNuts ice cream’ would be like a tortoni on steroids. You’d certainly have your fiber, though.
It has been more than a few years since I ate any GrapeNuts–the cereal was, indeed, quite crunchy. There was, also, GrapeNuts Flakes–perhaps more enjoyable if your teeth were not up to crunching GrapeNuts. However, as I remember, the Flakes did not have the same ingredients as the Nuts had.
So you think the Grapenut ice cream is simply the Post cereal added to ice cream? Maybe so, but would it not be Grape Nuts in italics and perhaps identified as Post Grape Nuts? I dunno, maybe not.
Yes Post Grape Nuts is still available from time to time as is the Grape Nuts Flakes. They have a small dedicated following and I’m sure most of us have tried it at least once. Even my dog gives up after a while and that’s with milk!
I’m trying to imagine it in ice cream. Maybe just a wee bit of the Grape Nuts here and there or sprinkled on the top.
Now I got to try it out. Sprinkle on top of vanilla, yes? Or no, mix it in?
https://www.eater.com/2018/9/24/17887660/grape-nuts-cereal-ice-cream-flavor-history-explainer-recipe
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My favorite cereal hasn’t been made in years:
Never tried mixing it with ice cream. Never had pregnancy cravings either which is how many of these improbable combinations get started! [(-D]
Midland Mike, thanks for that Halifax link! I couldn’t be happier to be wrong!
Miningman, and other who may be unfamiliar with the term, “tactical nuke” is what us military guys, present and former, call low-yield (low kiloton or less than a kiloton) nuclear weapons made for battlefield use. Capable of being delivered by aircraft or in some cases by artillery their postulated use would have been to stop a Soviet “blitz” into Western Europe if all else failed.
Goes without saying they’ve never been used anywhere by anyone. And even using them might have opened a “Pandora’s Box” of horror no-one might have imagined.
And it’s a safe bet any country with a nuclear capability has them.
Thanks Penny and Firelock
Mike just sent me this!
One step below artillery fired weapons like the 15kt (about the same yield as the little boy) Upshot-Knothole test Grable of 1953:
Yep, that’s “Atomic Annie” all right, a 280mm (11 inch) bore artillery piece. Twenty like it were produced. Later developments of nuclear artillery shells for eight inch and 155mm (6 inch) caliber guns made a big, unwieldy unit like “Annie” obsolete.
The first arrival of the Lady Nelson was front page news in Hamilton, Bermuda.
http://bnl.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/BermudaNP02/id/65034/rec/10
I think the trade agreement necessitating construction of the Lady Ships ultimately causes the existence of the brand name “Canadian National Steamships.”
Fascinating.
Doesn anyone use that classy phrase “The year of our Lord…” anymore, or is it just politically incorrect to do so?
Firelock-- Perhaps we have shifted more suitably to phrases like ‘Year of the Rat’ , or ’ Year of the Monkey’. Certainly describes things better.
Yes, all the formal this and that in those documents and all the very distinguished very important people listed and it’s really all about bananas!
Outside of the listed requirement for "Accomadations for 100 First Class passengers ( see above mentioned very important people ) the only thing they specifically denote is bananas.
Cue Harry Chapin.
Remember that recent Photo of the Day with the 2 CB&Q steam locomotives thundering by, rods blurred, white smoke and steam billowing far into the atmosphere, heck you could feel the shaking just by looking at the picture and it’s all about bananas.
Bananas rule! Who knew?
