Comprehensive list of causes of derailments

Hi all,

I know the common causes of derailments but I just found a cause I had never run into. Does a comprehensive list of causes of derailments exist. In other words if you cant find a cause due to the expected reasons try these.

Normal things to check are;

Track gauge

Track level (Longitudal and across)

Mismatched rail code causing bump or drop.

Rail joint not tight.

Track obstructions (on or near) Nails, scenery, buildings bad weld or joint.

Turnouts (not level, improper gauge or wheel clearance at guand rails or frog.

Curve radius too tight

Wheel Gauge or width off

Coupler height (coupler and trip pin)

Here are some things i have found that are less common but still cause derailments;

Trucks are deformed (wheel(s)) don’t all sit flat on track.

The Steam loco is connected to the tender by the cable but the bar is disconnected.

A piece of a loco detail or rolling stock has come off and is on track or causing wheels to lift.

Switch machine too close on curve causing loco plow or other body part/detail to hit.

Uncoupler magnet to high or not flat/level

Can you add to the list?

  • Kink at rail joint (easy to do with flex track)

  • Turnout points not firmly contacting stock rail (both sides)

  • Turnout points not shaped right to fit stock rail at top of points

  • Poorly adjusted truck movement on rolling stock

  • Steam loco lead or trailing trucks not sprung properly

  • Steam loco floating / sprung drivers not properly sprung (too strong or weak)

  • Diesel loco wheelsets just a tad out of gauge. The flanges should be centered in the NMRA gauge slots, not just sorta fitting into the slots.

  • I’ll second the one on the track level across the rails, including at turnouts, which can readily be a bit twisted. Part of this is how level you first make your roadbed and, related, how much you choose to glue down the turnout, often avoided for maintenance ease.

  • Oh, and running a train into a turnout from the diverging direction with the points thrown wrong. I’ve heard this can happen.[;)]

A kink in the track. One might think that would show up with a gage check. But maybe not.

Another one I ran into back in the day was when my club had trackwork where they built the main higher than the sidings. Admirable, actually. But they had the grade change for the siding happen “inside” the switch. Very bad. I jacked up that section of the siding until the track was again fully parallel to the main before starting a grade change. I’ll call this “Grade Change in Track Switch”.

And a variant on the above: Sudden Grade Changes. I/we run into that at Free-mo where there’s been problems at the ends of modules where the foam shrank and lowered all the track except at the end that sits on plywood. As I have watched trains cross these problems, I am amazed at how many cars actually make it.

It didn’t cause a derailment, but it sure was irritating. I ran my new Bowser C-628 on a train. As I say, irritating. Turns out the snowplows (yes, one at each end–SP) had near-zero* clearance from the rails. Yup, I’ll be a-fixin’ that. Otherwise, a beautiful loco. So, I’ll put this down as “Dragging Equipment”. Also happened on a $500 brass passenger car.

Ed

*I just measured the clearance: .005" to .010"

PS: Looks like Paul got some of mine while I was clicky-clacking.

Wheels both in gauge, but slipped toward one end of the axle so that, when tracking, neither axle’s wheels are directly behind/in front of their counterparts on the next axle;

Axles not seated properly in the trucks’ bearing cones;

Sags or humps leading through the points and toward the diverging leg of a turnout;

Frog poorly designed or made allowing wheel drop or improper tracking;

Points rails not sharp enough;

Wrong tire and flange profile for the NMRA-compliant turnout;

Couplers that aren’t really compliant or suited for matching;

Couplers that aren’t mounted suitably for the curvature radius being used;

Dirt on the wheels (expecially plastic wheels)

-“S” curve in track

  • Steam engine to tender connector that lifts the engine in a curve

  • Hanging wires from motor/engine

Also, related to previous comments:

  • Lack of weight on leading trucks

  • Unbalanced weight on engine

Simon

My former biggest problem:

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Improperly installed pilot trucks on steam locomotives!

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This was almost enough to make me go all diesels. Now I only operate Spectrum, PowerHouse, or brass locomotives. These all seem to work well. On many steam locomotives the pilot truck cannot pivot freely, has tension on it, or is just way too light to stay on the rails.

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On most locomotives there was not a good option for fixing the problem.

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-Kevin

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These are great! I’ll wait a couple days and see how many more we get then I’ll post a complete list for all.

Turnout not reset to proper position. (left switched to siding or spur).
Turnout switch points dance around, not held in place by ground throw or switch machine.
Turnout directly after curve causing a S curve.
Turnouts too tight for longer locomotives or rolling stock.
Loose ballast in a turnout.
Wheel sets not properly set in trucks.
Coupler ‘brake hose’ too low.
Automobiles or livestock on track.

Penelope Pitstop tied to the track again. [;)]Image result for dudley do right villain

Bridge painter falls from bridge, is dragged 500 scale feet by a freight train, and the train derails. Painter is discovered beneath the locomotive, dusts himself off and continues work on the bridge.

As a rule our models can be quite forgiving but,things they hate that will cause issues.

Sloppy kinky laid track and old BB and Roundhouse cars hastily built with defects overlooked.

Speed…Yup that “S” curve between switches taken at Marc one or light speed.

Truck mounted couplers.

Trucks to tight won’t allow trucks to turn freely-not sloppy by being to loose.

Long wheel base engines and cars on sharp curves.

Hasn’t been a problem for me. I installed two leading and one trailing two-wheel trucks on my logging tanks with no weight or springs. No derailments.

And, in general, I’ve not noticed lead truck problems on my steamers. But mainline steamers have always run on 36" curves and up. Even my loggers have a min radius of 18".

I do wonder if the leading truck problem, at least for two wheel trucks, for long wheelbase locos on sharp turns couldn’t be that the lead truck wheels go out of tangent with the rails.

Ed

Did anyone mention “Excessive Speed”?

I would put that under the sub cat of “operator error”.

Whatever is on the list going forward, double it for going backwards. Pushing a string of cars is always tricky, even if everything is near-perfect.

Did anyone mention speed?

Robert

Level to uphill transition too abrupt.

I had no transition at all on my second layout many years ago - took me a while to figure it out.

Paul

Robert,There shouldn’t be any issues in pushing 20,30 or more cars period. I did at the Columbus HO with cars equip with X2F couplers back in the 60s.

Again that falls under not accepting anything less then 100% trouble free operation and contrary to popular beliefs it easy attainable.

Stiffly sprung diaphragms on passenger cars, operated on sharp radius curves.

Rail gaps that become too wide due to changing weather conditions.

This list when finished should help a lot of model railroaders that cant figure out what is causing a derailment. I’m also going to add that the cause may not be the site. Often the loco or car derails a good distance before it becomes obvious.

For categories I’m thinking

Operator error: (too fast, loco/tender connection)

Track work: (curves, S-turns, kinks, gauge, transitions, gaps, level)

Turnouts: (Level, points, guard rails, frogs, size)

Rolling Stock: (trucks, wheels, axles, weight, couplers, clearance)

Locomotives: (wheels, number of wheels & configuration, front and rear wheels)

Stuff on track: (parts, figures, ballast, nails, etc.)