Da MESS just got Mo Power!!! (CPR 3100 4-8-4)

Yeppers! just picked this up at the LHS and she’s a Beaut!!

CPR K-1a Northern Class 4-8-4 No 3100. CPR only had 2.

It was imported by Van Hobbies and is 1 of 300 made by Samhongsa

Fergie

Wow, nice power! Brass, is it? Looks great. Hopefully it pulls as good as it looks.

Sweet catch you got there Fergie! That 4-8-4 sure looks smart!

Lookin’ real good there Fergie! You’re getting quite a MESS of locos…[;)][:D]

How’s she run?

I understand “just” “got” and “power”…those sound like words in the English langauge.

but I havent a clue what “Da” “Mess” and “Mo” mean…

could we try speaking normally please? [:-^] most people on this forum are over 12 years old and dont speak this odd dialect.

thanks,

Scot

Fergie–

As one of my students would say: OMYGAW! That is one GORGEOUS 4-8-4. Are you going to get one of the new Rapido CN jobs to keep her company?

Beautiful loco. Just beautiful!

Tom [:P]

Da: “The”

MESS: Musquodoboit, Eastern Shore & Sydney

Mo: “More”

(For the dialectically illiterate among us.) [:-^]

Real purty power there, Fergie! [:D]

Shizzle! Dats da BOMB Dogmiester!

That is one suh-weeeeeeeet locomotive, Fergie. Wow. And wow, again! [8D]

Do you operate DC?

-Crandell

I run DCC and as for her running I don’t know yet as the drive shaft was damaged. Still for $275 I’m not complaining. By the looks of her she’s never been run, though she was made in 77’ or 79’. Haven’t decided whether to modify with DCC and a headlight yet as I don’t know if I would be destroying her value. The real test is to see how she negotiates my track. If she can handle it I’ll be modifying it.

As for CN power… Yes I have a TLT 4-8-4 ordered and along with the CN Hudson, passenger service to Musquodoboit (The M in MESS) will flourish! BTW Can I get a spell check here… anyone?

[:D]Fergie

NO! Definitely not! Forget it! Go ahead and upgrade it. My impression - and that became ever stronger over the years - is that the very most of brass collectors don’t care for original condition as long as the work

1: has 100% prototypical proof

2: has been done professionally.

I have seen more than a few brass models haveing been redetailed and upgraded which then sold for much, very much more than similar but untreated models.

I always upgrade my models which means adding ash pans, sand pipes, brake rods, cab deck aprons, bell and whistle ropes, changeing some error details, etc. But use solder as extensively as possible. I personally never use glue since a couple of years, even on painted models I solder the details and then touch up the paint.

This is good to know. Thankyou

Fergie

While you are at it…why dont you get it properly painted? (colors are wrong). Also, why not get a new gear tower and motor from NWSL and make it run like a jewel (they were never great runners out of the box).

David B

FERGIE, that is one nice steamer…as for color, good Lord, I can’t tell the difference on what it was supposed to look like…it your loco, do as you please.

DAVID: Might it have been more appropriate to say," I have a picture of the color scheme for that loco, are you interested in it Fergie?" Now doesn’t that sound more constructive?

By the way, I was in Calgary October 3rd and 4th, I ate breakfast in the rotating tower overlooking the freight yard on the 4th, I was looking for you but never found you…the bus had to leave at 10 for a tour of the city then we were off to Banff. I still can’t pronounce that town without inserting an “i”…did the person who named that town flunk spelling 101 ? That is one scenic location, I loved Banff.

Actually when I found out about the colour being wrong I was crest fallen I am wondering if I should paint it black and put MESS markings on it… not!

David please point me in the right direction here after your comments I went on e-bay to look at other CP engines for colour comparison and all I saw was this outragiously over priced Royal Hudson (which never sold) and the colours looked identical. probably why it never sold… go figure[%-)]

Fergie

David,

please say what is wrong with the colors. I had a look at the book “The Northerns” from Jack Farrell. There is a nice pic of such an engine and it looks pretty much the same except for smoke deflectors. It is a b/w pic, but the paint scheme is clearly visible and looks identical.

From the factory the Grey and the Tuscan Red are WAY off (to the trained eye as I deal with these locos all the time). I wasnt trying to be mean, he wanted to know what has to be done to ‘up’ its value.

Thicker skin people…

David B

Actually the color won’t be a problem as the prototypes only ran at night (usually) between Toronto and Montreal.

Rick

Would weathering the engine with a dark wash help at all? David? Or does it really need paint after all?

David, would you be able to show us a decent colour image someplace so that we’re all talking about the same standard?

-Crandell

The Grey is too light for CPR Steam and the Tuscan nees a slightly darker Hue to it. These were mistakes from the Factory for these units, and most were repainted by the user to be more accurate to the prototype. Just a FYI, Scalecoat II makes the correct colors for a repaint. Their CPR Tuscan Red and CPR Steam Gray are spot on.

Here is a pic for comparison:

As you can see, the Gray is way off, but the Tuscan Red is pretty close.

David B