Dover, NJ, with Lackawanna MU train

Question resoved

Location? Lancaster,PA?

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This should be easy to figure out for someone who knows the New Haven.

That does look like a typical New Haven cat bridge, and the pans are up on the MP54s so it’s 11kV 25 Hz (and not Dover, NJ on the Lackawanna)

Earliest car I see is an early-60s Chevy, with something from the late '40s parked ahead of it.

The station was large enough to have at least four REA trucks.

The tower is ‘Dover’ but I don’t find that name on a list of New Haven towers.

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I’m not 100% convinced it isn’t Dover NJ. The catenary looks right, and the station building looks like it’s a match too.

-El

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You put the pans on MP54s up on 3000VDC catenary and the result won’t be anywhere near as peaceful looking.

Likewise the ex-Lackawanna was converted to 25 kV 60 Hz, which would cause no less pandemonium with pans up.

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IT is Dover, NJ.

Station is still there.

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Well, there you go. :+1:

Rich

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But that doesn’t explain powered-on MP54s there. I would suspect AI if I did not know the source.

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Not sure why the cars are referred to as PRR MP-54. They are marked Lackawanna. The appear to be Lackawanna powered MU-trailer pairs.

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This is what comes of trying to analyze a photograph with poor vision on an iPhone. I thought I distinctly saw “PENNSYLVANIA” on the lead car, as I had been primed to expect a fan trip using them, and did not even see the lack of porthole end windows or the very large and lacy pantograph…

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You are to be forgiven. I can see how you would make that mistake.

Rich

They appear to be Lackawanna MU’s to me as well. The slots on the side of the roof above the vestibules are a dead give away as they are the intakes for the motor ventilation.

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Thanks, They are Lackawanna, not PRR, and it’s my fault for mislabeling them,

Is the Brass Penny restaurant5 by the Dover stationb still in business? Oh, wait, that’s at Gladstone

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The Karner Brass Penny is still open as the Gladstone Tavern, and Sir Pennysworth is still on the porch.

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Thanks, The Gladstone branch, with its outward canted wood line poles, was the nearest thing to a Midwest or Pennsylvania or California interurban that the NYCity area had,more than the Staten Island R. T. But I suppose NJTransit replaced them with steel. Like the South Shore finally ending street-running.

I remember the Brass Pennuy as servind excellent food at modest prices. A very worthwhile destination.

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I wonder if the initial confusion might have been with this image, from the New Haven Station 1972 thread.

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THe Pennsy Tuscan-Red MP-54 train at New Haven Stattion was on an ERA fantrip during the brief Penn Central days, We also covered the New Canaan Branch, substituting for one regular shuttle round-trip schedule. It was not a very hot day, and regular passengers did nolt complain about lack of air-conditioning, At least one did comment about pleaasure at a once-in-a-lifetine expedrience, There is an old thread on that excursion.a