Fictonal Locomotives

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What kind of locomotive would you make up for MSTS or just for fun? The locomotive can be either of these: 1. a creative improvement of a real locomotive, 2. and a completely original locomotive. When you post your ideas, place either of the two numbers next to your post so I can tell which catagory you’re using. Here’s mine, which you can use as a formatting example.
2.: Name: DR-12-600 Builder: Kyle Godfrey & Son Axle #: 80 Horsepower: 8,000,000,300,000 Typical Air Horn Mounted: Kyle Godfrey & Son 6500 40-chime horn Power Type: Internal Combustion, Diesel-Electric

Descrption: The HRR-50-600 is considered the most powerful locomotive ever. It is over 90 feet long, 16 feet wide, and can haul a freight up to 1,000 cars. Its primary use is heavy freight hauling over heavy grades that would be impossible for even 100 EMD SD40-2s and SD70MACs put together. This means that railroads international wide have been able to build new trackage over even 10% grades. Sound awesome? Wait to you hear one! The engine type is a Kyle Godfrey & Son 10-stroke 6500. It sounds more like a jet engine than a diesel engine! The control stand is very simple, yet complicated. The throttle is free-moving, which means it isn’t notched. The reverser returns to the steam locomotive style, so it freely moves from 0 to 89 and negative. There is a dynamic brake, but it also freely moves. The brakes are not air, but are more like car brakes, which means they are friction. They are controlled by one master handle which makes one rotation fully, and a full application will stop the train within a few feet (only a train brake is included). The speedometer is listed in both KPHs and MPHs. And starting and stopping the engine is a breeze; all you got to do is turn and flip a simple switch, then the whole engine will shut down. The horn activator is located on the floor of the cab, and is activated by using one’s feet. A passenger version is also avalible, with a massive steam generator capable of providing enough heat to

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kylerama, you got good imagination.

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I have a couple sites with a lot of fictional locomotives, both style #1 and #2.

http://www.karenparker.net/PixelMagic/pixel_magic_home.htm

http://home.att.net/~Berliner-Ultrasonics/bw-apoc4.html

Very good sites.

Now, it’s my turn, I am choosing option #2.

Name: SB Atomos Diesel Locomotive
Builder: SB Locomotives
Horsepower: 1,000,000
Air Horn: SB Front and Rear mounted 5 chime “Power Blast” horns
Power: 4 Diesel Electric 250,000 horsepower 20 cylinder engines
Wheel Arrangment: B-D-B-B-D-B

Description: The SB Atomos Diesel Locomotive is SB Loco’s latest. This monster can easily haul your longest trains cross country, without stopping! Made for hauling long freight trains, this locomotive is smooth, and easily controlled, with a 25 notch throttle, and SB’s patented DynaBrake system. Although louder than typical road diesels, the noise is kept to a reasonable level. This, and the two onboard steam generators, allows the Atomos to be used for heavy passenger service if required. The cab is roomy, with leather seats, and, as some might say, has the comfort of home. All gauges are digital, and available in American Standard, or Internation System units. Cab interior can be customized to railroad’s fancy. Largest user of the Atomos Diesel Locomotive, is the Scott Squad Railroad.

[8]TrainFreak409[8]

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A variation on this theme would be the various steam locomotive designs that were proposed but never built and diesel locomotives which were catalogued but never built.

In the first category would be a 4-10-6 with trailing truck and tender boosters proposed for Texas & Pacific and a 4-10-4 proposed for Monon.

In the second category would be a 2400 HP version of the PA, the original design of the DD40A (6000 HP), and the U18BT (a transfer version similar to the M420TR).

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Ok give me steam first. Lets go with both numbers.N&W makes a 4-10-0 for certain runs(light enough for the Abingdon branch but more powerful than their 4-8-0’s)and other roads copy it causing 4-10-2’s and the like to be built.(why not there were 4-12-2’s for crying out loud![soapbox] ) now on to big steam. C&O mad that there Alleys are not considered the biggest have a 4-10-10-4 built up and say[censored][censored] to you to UP! But in the weird side of me I would like to see a three truck passenger Heisler! One that gets up to 70 or better(kinda scary cause when I get ours up to 15 it gets wild!)Now for the internal combustion how about an SD-40-2 with D-D trucks!or one I would like to see is a SW 1500 with C-C trucks for heavy transfer work.WIth a five chime horn all bells forward and the largest bell being from a ship!Smallest from a Nathan 5 chimer(the largest bell of one of them)and very very bright ditch and roof lights (easier to see the numbers on cars and to spotlight deer )Anyhoo thats my thoughts.

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There never was an SD40-2 with D-D trucks but there are SD45’s equipped with them. They are known as DDM45’s and they operate on the meter-gauge EF Vitoria a Minas in Brazil. The same railroad operates BB40-8’s and BB40-9M’s and has re-equipped some ex-CSX C30-7’s with four 2-axle trucks and span bolsters.

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There was some discussion on another forum about articulated engines that went beyond the usual 2-6-6-2, etc, like 2-6-6-6-6-2 or maybe a 2-8-8-8-8-8-4. Also mentioned was hinged boilers. Combining those features would make some interesting virtual railroading.

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I’ll use option #1.

The Bigger Boy Triplex is the ultimate in Sherman Hill butt-kicking![:D]

Length: 171 feet, 6 inches
Weight: 1,800,000 pounds
Wheel Arrangment: 4-8-8-8-4
Tractive Effort: 160,300 pounds
Boiler Pressure: 325 pounds per square inch
Top Speed: 110 mph

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George Henderson also proposed quadruplexes and quintuplexes analogous to the Triplexes built for Erie and Virginian but it is quite likely that they would have been impractical since they would have used steam faster than any boiler could have produced it.

There was also an amusing article in TRAINS more than a few years back in which the author speculated about a Mallet-Garratt (4-8-8-4 + 4-8-8-4).

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On the websites I posted before, there are A LOT of fictional locos.

Like “Eerie’s” and Pennsy’s 2-4-6-8-10-12.

Pennsy’s 4-14-6

C&O’s Super Allegheny’s 2-6-6-6-6

Super Garratt 2-6-6+6-6-2

Garratt Boy 4-8-8-4+4-8-8-4

The Bigger Boy 4-8-8+4-8-8-4+8-8-4

AND MORE!

[8]TrainFreak409[8]

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Two for #2:

The V-3 class of 4-8-0s were the workhorses of the DPVL*.

In 1915, the DPVL acquired, with the CStLD&P, a number of compund 4-8-0 type locomotives, classed V-2. However, in 1921, the entire V-2 class was rebuilt as simple engines, equipped with superheaters and most modern appliances, for use as a medium-duty locomotive, pulling way freights and shorter coal drags.

Generally well-like by their crews, the V-3s served the DPVL until October, 1958. Five are known to have survived the scapper’s torch. One is at the Lakton Station Museum, near downtown Chicago, and four are at the DPVL Museum in Central Illinois, where one is still under steam, and the remainder are stored for parts.

In February, 1975, Trains published an article by Rober LaMessena titled “Was There Ever a Super 4-8-4?” With the article was a composite drawing of all the “super” elements that would be incorporated into a super 4-8-4.

What escaped the (usually) sharp eyes of the editors of Trains was that the composite drawing was almost the spit and image of a DPVL N-3, more specifically, an N-3a, which was a N-3 experimentally fitted with poppet valves. The only other difference between the DPVL’s N-3 and the composite drawing was that all the N-3s were coal burners.

How both the editorial staff of Trains, and Robert La Messena could both forget about the N-3s is another mystery…

Only two N-3s survive to this day. One is in the Lakton Station Museum, and the other is in the DPVL Museum, where it has been restored for excursion service. The sole N-3a was the first of the class to be scrapped in November, 1958.

*DPVL and CStLD&P are reporting marks used by my fictitious model railroad. I like the lines of 4-8-0 locomotives, and have wanted to build one, based on the SP TW-8, and some Monon engines. I have wanted to build a model of the super 4-8-4 depicted in the article cited. Maybe on

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Before getting too far afield with fictional designs, Lionel Wiener’s “Articulated Locomotives” (is it still available from Kalmbach?) describes an incredible amount of practical and not-so-practical articulated steam locomotives from all over the globe.

Lest the diesel fans (myself included) feel left out, there are some interesting foreign and export locomotives designed to fit a variety of gauges, clearances and weight restrictions.