Does anyone have pictures of the interior of the GG1 electrics? I would lobve to see the inside of this loco.
http://www.railpictures.net/addphotos/ may have one. The PA railroad museum in Strasburg has one on display - I was in the cab - cramped as all heck!! Wouldn’t want to run on for a job!![V]
Yes, those giants were cramped.
I have a photo that I got from the web; unfortunately I don’t remember which site. It’s a b/w photo taken from behind the engineer showing his controls and the view out of his windshield. If you’d like you can send me your email address in my pm box and I can email it to you.
[C):-)]
Saw the one at the PA RR Museum - made a sardine can look roomy. It’s a heck of a note that the motorman on a four-wheel Birney that might have weighed as much as the GG-motor’s front truck had three times the working space!
Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964 - with motors with much more cab room)
I didn’t know they would let you in the cab - I know they didn’t when I was last there a few years back before they started the big renovation.
I was in it probably 10 years ago - at that time they had steps leading up to it & you could squeeze into it!![:O]
It is very cramped. As a kid I was invited into the cab of one at 30th Street station. Even as a kid the first thing I did was crack my head on the I Beam structure. there is a very narrow aisle connecting the two sides of the cab and the view isn’t that great. Several pictures are on the interent and the PRR used interior shots to show off the signal repeater in the cab that displayed the next signal in line. It was to the left of the front window. AT this point I coudn’t tell you what color it was but even climbing up from a raised platform was quite a climb let alone from the ground. I doubt the way it was built would be allowed today because there was nothing there that would protect you if you impacted anything. But then again there isn’t much that is going to win if hit by a G. There used to be one grade crossing on the corridor in Maryland and a G hit a bolldozer on a low boy that got hung up there. The front truck of the G derailed and the bulldozer was thrown three tracks over
This link has a small picture that might be useful: http://www.rrmuseumpa.org/about/roster/gg1.shtml
Wayne
Here’s another link but it too is very small:
I don’t know how to make these links active.[%-)]
Woah! Never knew they were that cramped inside. It also looks like it was a PITA to see outside through the front/side windows.
http://www.rrmuseumpa.org/about/roster/gg1.shtml
http://crcyc.railfan.net/locos/elec/gg1/gg1.html
I just hit the space bar after the link.
Thanks to all who provided info on the GG1 picture request.
Rob C
Unusually for an Australian, I have ridden a GG1 between Philadelphia and Washington in late 76. While I took a few photos out the firemans window I didn’t take one inside! There’s not much room in those things despite the size of the loco but it doesn’t help that I’m 6’5" in the old scale!
If you can find a GG1 in Microsoft Train Sim format ( I got mine from Trainsim.com), it is very close from the cab view. Auran Trainz one does not come close on the inside especially with the standard diesel controller!
Hope this helps
Trevor www.xdford.digitalzones.com FYI
I just looked in the one at the Railway museum of PA once and couldn’t believe how small it was in there.
I was in the GG1 in Altoona during one of the past PCRRHS conventions. It was pretty cramped in there, and I’m only 5’9". Not really a place I’d want to be for extended periods.
I remember waiting at Penn Station in Newark when I was in my early teens, and looking into the cab when a GG1 pulled in with it’s train. I couldn’t believe how narrow and dirty it was.
The GG-1 cabs were dirty and small. The seat had to be moved forward on a hinge to get into the aisleway. They were hot in the summer and some of them were cold in the winter. When standing still the blower could be shut off to keep from drawing the warm air out of the cab. The blower had to move a lot of air to cool 12 traction motors. There were canvas curtains (actually the curtains that went across the diaphrams between passenger cars) that could be pulled across the aisleway just behind the seats to try to block some of the draft. The way they were built, it was pretty hard to seal up the cabs although some of them weren’t too bad. They had resistance heaters right in front of the seats, but no fans to circulate the warm air.
I work with a few engineers that have run the GG1s. They hated 'em. Cramped space and controls, bar-stool like seats. They ran 'em up and down the Port Road, 108 miles from Baltimore to Harrisburg and Enola. They said that the GP-38’s are palaces compared to them.
I’ve ridden in GP38’s, and that ain’t saying much.
I thought I remembered two. One inside all cleaned up and pretty. The other outside not looking too good.