Good bye, conductors?

Possibly…probably…maybe…

Let’s let the non-railroaders figure all the moves required to fix a broken knuckle?

No professional help please - and don’t hurt yourselves laughing!

Think you’d want to fly in an airliner that has only one pilot? The first officer is there for a safety factor as well as to share the load. Engineer has a heart attack. No one in the cab to initiate emergency braking; what’s gonna happen next?

That doesn’t really help. One person by him/herself would find it difficult to change a knuckle… is that correct?

Map out the game plan - 1 man or 2.

Brakes applied from a remote location.

We have had many versions of this conversation before, and each time, it seems like the entire march of progress stops when it gets to those pesky knuckles.

It is the underlying assumption of the agreement one of the rail unions is signing with BNSF. Maybe you should address them with your concerns and anger. It’s not the non-railroaders who are saying and doing this.

I have a feeling this is going to get interesting. [:D]

I can’t change a knuckle. You can’t run a business. Let’s move on.

Just like the movement of a train stops when those pesky knuckles get broken.

Yeah take it up with Warren Buffett…its his management team that came up with this idea… maybe he can change a knuckle.

Probably some government weenie sitting behind a computer somewhere running a statistics program coming up with this idea.

Thinks Knuckles is a character in a Sonic the Hedgehog game.

Au Contraire any idiot can run a business (how well and how long are other matters). I can qualify as a idiot if you prefer.

The reality is that trains, being mechanical things, will break - PERIOD.

They don’t fix themselves - PERIOD.

They must be fixed - PERIOD.

How long it takes to resume movement ends up affecting the bottom line and the fluidity of your property.

I don’t know… we all have our areas of expertise. Warren Buffett probably wouldn’t be able to change a knuckle either… but I’ve heard he is good at other things. No one person knows it all or even a small part of it.

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That doesn’t really help. One person by him/herself would find it difficult to change a knuckle… is that correct?

Changing the knuckle is not the issue. It only takes a few minutes if you halfway know what you are doing. It’s not like you have to be touched by the Gods to be able to swap one out.

But with an engineer, you can change a knuckle pretty quick since you are able to bring the parts to you, and not have to walk them in. And not delaying that UPS train behind you a few hours will probably more than make up for your salary.

Yes, you can change a knucle, I can show you, and just about anyone else, how to do so in under 60 seconds.

I can also run a business, did so for several years, two auto part franchise, railroading is more fun.

Was your question about the engineer vs conductor and engineer an actual question you wanted answered?

I was trying to get you to think through all the steps needed to accomplish the task, with only an engineer, and with both., and get the train moving again.

The issue is not about knuckle changing, as you would know if you skimmed over the agreements linked. It is the first step in major changes in labor agreements as a result of PTC. As Euclid/Bucyrus said way back, PTC and other technologies will lead to far more automation in operations. As the Dylan song paraphrased goes, “You don’t need a railroader to know which way the corporate wind blows.” Stormy seas ahead.

Were you responding to me?

Because I aske the question of Ulrich.

As for the agreement you speak of, I will have a copy monday, and any change to the national requires ratification by all members, not just BNSF.