HO scale Krauss-Maffei ML-4000

I am working on a Rivarossi HO scale Krauss-Maffei ML-4000 locomotive. I like to replace the front pilot and need help find what part I need to use. Can any one give me a suggestion? The type of pilot I am looking for is like the one in the picture.

http://www.pbase.com/espeef5/image/116420864

Thanks for any help.

Sorry I can’t help you with the pilot but I wanted to compliment you on the fine work you’re doing with the conversion of the old AHM beastie. It’s looking great! Those are such neat engines. Please post a picture when you’re finished.

Roger Huber

Deer Creek Locomotive Works
R

I would like to take credit for the model in the picture but it isn’t mine. The model in the picture is done by a guy named Clyde King. I have tried to find away to contact him about the part he used but, I have not had any luck with that.

Don

Is this the pilot you need? It looks pretty close. According to the Details West web site it is for an F unit but perhaps it could be modified.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/235-313

Maybe e-mail Details West to see if they can answer your question. I couldn’t see a phone number on their web site.

http://detailswest.com/index.html

Dave

Nice loco. You might try getting ahold of Mr. King through Rob S, the guys whose pbase site the pics are posted on. I think Rob works for Atlas. I do know he has a lot of pics posted here, where you might also try contacting him: http://www.railcarphotos.com/

I think a F unit part is quite likely, as there was virtually nothing made to detail a K-M that I’m aware of.

The loco would seem to have a mate, given the rear driveshaft/PTO. That’s interesting.

That is the correct part. You may have to adapt it or the nose of the KM unit to make everything fit. I’d order it from Walthers as they have one in stock.

Thank you every one for the help on this project. Know what parts I need for a project to me is the hardest parts of doing one.

So Don,

Was that the right part? Jay seems to know what he is talking about so I’m guessing it was, but please let us know.

Also, if it was the right part, were you able to score the one at Walthers?

Sorry to be annoying but my ego needs all the help it can get! [swg][(-D][(-D]

Dave

Don’t know if it was the right part yet. Waiting to get it in to see if it does the job. Will keep you all updated. I hope it is I have two of these locomotives to do. Something you all maybe able to help with can you tell me what parts was used on the roof of this locomotive? The air piping.

Don:

There are a lot of parts on the top of that locomotive. I seriously suggest that you take the advise given by Mike to contact the person who did the model. They will likely be flattered by your intent to re-create their work.

If that doesn’t pan out then you will have to do a lot of searching to find the right parts. There are at least two different types of lift rings used, plus what look like parts of stantions to elevate the piping in some places. Standard lift rings without the base are easy to find, but I couldn’t find the ones with the square base.

There are also several different pipe fittings. This kit might be what you need for those, and it also includes tanks which might fit or can be modified to fit:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/235-304

It looks like the modeller has used brass stock for the actual pipes as well as all the grab irons. That is fine, but it is also rather delicate. If you don’t handle the model very carefully you will bend the brass stock. I use phosphor bronze wire for my details, available from Tichy, but while it is much more tolerant of being handled, it is also somewhat harder to bend. The accuracy of the piping formation on the sample model is extremely good so you might be further ahead to use hardened brass to make the pipes easier to form and just teach yourself to handle with care.

The black flex hoses that span the joints of the shell can be made from wire insulation.

I’m guessing that the exhaust covers are scratch built. Brass .005" sheet with .010" wire would work nicely. I’m also guessing that the white louvre panels could be made from styrene clapboard siding.

Those are just a few suggestions. You are going to need a whole lot more information than what I can offer. Let us know how you make out.

Dave

Don:

One more point - you gotta install a cab interior! Personally I don’t think there is anything worse that a locomotive run by ghosts!

Dave

Dave and others, Thank you for all the suggestions and help. on this project. I have tried to contact the builder of this model and the one who post the pictures of it but that has been a few days ago and I havent heard anything back since. So next best thing is to improvise. The piping my not be ad detailed but I will be using your suggestion Dave and bend my own. Then I will get the parts that look to be a close match.

On more question for you guys. I have looked on the net and in walthers but does any one make the ladder handrail like what is on this model. I and thinking bending my own.

Don

As far as the ladder railings go, I’m pretty sure you will have to bend them yourself. Be prepared to mess up a few in the process.

One tool I find useful for this is a pair of round nosed pliers like these:

You should also make up a bending jig from styrene so you can make identical copies, assuming they are all the same size.

The ladders below the doors are also hand made and require some soldering. I can give you some ideas on how to do that as well if you wish.

Dave