Holgate and Reynolds bi-level push-pull coaches

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I have a pair of these kits that I acquired 30 years ago.
I never finished building them. I now have the urge to do so.
Of course, I’d like to detail the interiors to a greater extent than how the rundimentry kits came. Not sure of how to do the second level of seats.
Anyone have any detail information on the interiors of these coaches?## I believe they were modeled after coaches run on the Milwaukee road, Rock Island and Burlington.

Thanks.

Alan

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I just spent a few minutes trying to google to help. Perhaps someone else has a link to show the interior.

Long ago I commuted on these cars while I was in Chicago area. The upper level was not a full floor. It had galleries which were open on teh center side of the car. There were a series of single seats upstairs with an aisle overlooking the lower level. There were four stairwells near teh center doors going to each of four galleries. Lower level had two person seats along the windows as a normal coach.

Need a picture.

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[quote user=“Heartland Division CB&Q”]

I just spent a few minutes trying to google to help. Perhaps someone else has a link to show the interior.

Thanks. I spent some time as well, but, came away empty handed.

Long ago I commuted on these cars while I was in Chicago area.

Me, too. Well. one ride anyway. High school senior trip..

Need a picture.

So do I. Got one?

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Stainless Steel or painted flat-sided? Illinois Railway Museum (Union, Ill) now has 2 old CNW cars if someone visits there they can click away. Photo-taking in running trains is risky / homeland security, etc. Scratching my head on what to google next, no luck on interior shots.

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Stab in the dark here, are these even close to what you guys remember?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=170700

I tried “Metra Bilevel Gallery” but didn’t get but that interior.

EDIT:

http://www.cl.ais.net/~dbehr/7600PullmanPhotoPage.html

“bi level gallery car” yielded that. It’s Caltrain, but a Pullman Gallery car nonetheless. Is it close?

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I have ridden in both the old smooth side CNW/Rock Island style cars that Holgate and Reynolds offerdd, as well as the fluted side style used by CBQ and Milwaukee Road.

Generally the interiors looked rather similar, and the more modern cars also follow the same general style. That is you walk up a very tight narrow circular staircase to the upper level with a very narrow aisle to get to your seat, with the central area left clear. The conductor walks through and collects tickets by reaching up to you.

Thus this photo of a modern car might assist. Not exact but this is the general idea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caltrain

scroll down until you see the interior shot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nippon_Sharyo_bi-level_passenger_car_interior_hallway.JPG

Dave Nelson

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Thanks Flashwave, on the second link the “7600 St Louis Car Co” is a winner for most of the Metra coaches. The South Shore Bi-Levels are newer Japanese-built with the tubular x-bracing etc. the older cars have a short curb wall on the upper levels.

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Stainless Steel or painted flat-sided?

Stainless steel corrugated sides.

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[quote user=“Flashwave”]

Stab in the dark here, are these even close to what you guys remember?

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=170700

Yes, very close.

Thanks

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These are the ones I remember

http://www.cl.ais.net/~dbehr/7600StLPhotoPage.html

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Gee, the shot from the ground level looking up reinds me of the upstairs railing balcony in Alcatraz…

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