I’m going to buy a DCC system in the next 24 hours, due to a liquidation sale. I figure I’m gonna have to get it soon enough, may as well save money getting it now. So I need to decide in the next 24 hours which systems to get, and I was hoping you guys might be able to help.
Lenz Set-90 @ $182
OR
NCE Powerhouse Pro @ $300
The only big difference I see is the NCE set comes with two decoders, while the Lenz comes with a a coupon for two decoders. Knob or button style throttle doesn’t seem to be an issue with me, so I’m puzzled as to which systems to get.
Welcome to the forum! Good to have you aboard! [:)]
A couple of questions for you. Does the NCE PP give you a choice of decoders? The reason for asking is that it depends entirely on the make/model of the locomotive you have or will purchase.
The other crucial question is: How big is your layout/will your layout be? The NCE PP may be overkill. There are other “starter” DCC systems (e.g. Digitrax Zephyr or CVP EasyDCC) that can easily run both a smaller and medium-sized layout but are designed to be expandible. That way, as your layout grows, your DCC system can easily grow with it without “ditching” your “older” system. The Zephyr will run you 1/2 of what the NCE PP runs and also has a computer port so that you can run your layout, signal system, and even program your decoders - from your computer!
bcauldwell, if possible, I’d encourage you to take your time and learn what you can about DCC first BEFORE buying a system. Tony’s Train Exchange (http://www.tonystrains.com) has a wonderful link called “DCC For Beginners!” on their home page. Give it a read through before you make your decisions. I’d hate for you to hastily buy something that you’d end up being disappointed with or didn’t understand completely first and, therefore, be discouraged away from enjoying the pleasures and advantages of running DCC on your layout.
Tom
FYI: bcauldwell, NCE just came out with a handheld, starter system called “PowerCab”. Tony’s Train Exchange sells it at discount for around $140. It’s a little limited on power (1-amp max. output - i.e. about enough oomph to run 2-3 locomotives) but an additional 3-amp booster can be purchased in order to run more locomotives. It should be able to do pretty much what the PowerPro does. Here’s the direct link: http://www.tonystrains.com/tonystips/2005/063005b.htm
It’s really just a personal preference. I have been using DCC since ’95 and own a Digitrax Big Boy Set and a Zimo Starter Set “considered the worlds most advanced DCC System” and both are currently being listing on eBay.
However, I Just bought a complete Lenz (SET-100) yesterday with all of the necessary accessory modules and decoders to allow me to operate via my computer with the Railroad & Co software to control and monitor 16 blocks and 30 turnouts. Before investing I did my research and even did some testing with the products themselves. Besides being in business for over 25 years and early pioneers in DCC technology development, I find that the Lenz systems, modules and accessories to be extremely well engineered and packaged especially for computer control and operation.
I have used the NCE on a large club layout and although performs very well, I found the throttle a little bulky and busy, selection of accessory devices limited and in general just less to my liking. Again, I’m not trying to knock NCE; it’s just a personal choice. I strongly suggest you not rush and do some research on both systems too see for yourself. Remember to consider the possibility of future upgrades, add-on’s and personal interests. Good luck.
I have Lenz set 100 with a LH 90 cab as well. The 90 cab is alot easier to run trains with, the 100 is alot esier to program with, so both make it a great system.
I use decoder pro too but some of the CV’s aren’t yet accessible (BLI sound)
I agree with Ken about the cabs. Although the LH100 throttle is really not that much more complicated to operate once you pass the learning curve such as any new system. Although, the LH90 is somewhat less complicated due to its large knob and direction switch and fewer function buttons. However, nothing beats programming decoders like using the free Java based “Decoder Pro” Software by JMRI http://jmri.sourceforge.net/apps/DecoderPro/
I purchased the Set-100 with the additional modules because I just wanted the advanced features. In any case, I will do most of the operating using the Railroad & Company Train Controller Software from Freiwald http://www.freiwald.com/ ,which should add loads of operating enjoyment and flexibility.
I own the Lenz with both a LH90 and LH100 throttles. With the LH100 I can at least remember most of the simple programming sequences. I never program with the LH90 anymore. I have to read the manual every time. This might be an issue unless you are planning to program the decoders with a computer like steffd in the previous post says.
We are using the NCE system at our local model railroad club. It seems to be a fine system, I just have to learn to become more proficient with it. At home, I own the Lenz 100 system, and I purchased the 90 knob controller as well. Between the Lenz and the NCE, I prefer the Lenz system. I find the controllers are a lot easier to use and not as busy. The display on the Lenz system is larger and easier to read as well. For the difference in the price you are talking that will buy a 100 controller, power supply, and maybe a couple of the remote plug ins to plug your throttle controllers into at various places along your layout.
Well, it has been more than 24 hours. We are waiting with baited breath to hear which system you chose and why. Later we will expect more reports on what you like and don’t like about your new system.[;)]