I have a strange question. How did locomtive crews go to the bathroom in the days of steam and are their diesel or electric locomtives of any type that do not have toilets in them?
Good question. I myself do not know about the steam engines, but as far as locomotives not having toilets, they are the sw 1500’s, any sw ??? Do not have toilets. These are ment for switching in a yard, not in road service.
So is it safe to say that all road service locos have toilets on them (and probably fridges too) and switching only locos do not have toilets on them?
I wouldn’t say that. GP38-2’s (yes, they count as a road locomotive) have no toilet, and most SD40-2’s don’t either. I’d say very few Geeps have toilets, based on my experience. I can tell you every new widecab has one.
Depends on which railroad ordered the unit. SP GP38-2s had toilets in them.
What about EMD or Alco Cab units?
Coal burners came equipped with a rather large litter box in the tender. Though I would imagine that crews on oil burners would have to master the delicate art of hanging one’s rear out the side of a moving train.
Thetoilets on F units were at theback of the engine room; if you flushed while it was in run 8, there’s a partial vacuem, meaning the toilet would flush…up![:-^]
where were they located in an engine with out a wide nose?
On standard cabs, the toilet is in the very cramped nose (at least on the currently-active EMDs and GEs). As far as using the facilities - many sidings are in the middle of nowhere… when held in such a siding, it is the perfect time to “water the trackside vegetation”.
In the nose. On SD40s you have a step down to the door but on a GP38 you have to practically crawl through the door.
WOW ,I never knew that! Where were they located in the cab?
Standard cab units have the toilets in the low nose. You either have to go down some stairs or crouch down though a trap door. Some of the early GE’s had the toilet comparment in the back wall of the cab. Nice full height door and room.
Wide cab units have the toilet off to one side of the lower nose. Again, a nice full height door and room. Well for the most part.
Incidentally, Pennsylvania requires all road locomotives operating within it’s borders to be equipped with retention toilets.
Nick
The toilet is in the short nose. Some have a step down, like this ex-CR GP15-1.
Some just have a door, and the step is inside the compartment. Requires contorting to get down there.
I guess it depends on the railroad, as CN’s GP38-2’s and GP9RM’s all have toilets in the short hood. Even the GMD-1’s have toilets in the big, cavernous short hood, the SW1200RS’s are the only ones that don’t have crappers. Which can suck when you get a pair on the Langley Switcher,or the Lulu Island branch line; you have to see if one of the local industries will let you use their can.
The Gp38-2’s that the TPW have do have toilets on them, they are in the nose. It could be that either the previous road, or current owning road took the toliets out due to they dont want to maintain them.
Are these really dirty? Because, there’s no janitor…
Apparently my earlier post didn’t work,
What I’m going to post may be inappropriate but other stuff in this thread already is…
Back in the days of steam say, you have been holding it all day. When the fireman is about to extinguish the fire, the engineer (you) says “no no, lemme do it” and you take aim…
Another scenario would yield extra fuel. Just taking a dump on the coal shovel would yield extra fuel for…hmm…a few seconds.
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SW’s don’t have hoppers, but there is usually a boxcar handy somewhere along the line. The locomotive crews are supplied with “convienence packs” which contain toilet paper and other nessicary items. Swith crews have time to stop and let a crew member take a hike to do their bussiness. Road crews gotta do it on the run. I would imagine it would be a challange to use the hopper(toilet) in a moving locomotive on mediocore trackage.
Poo-poo power?!