The Perris Valley Line near Highgrove curves sharply west to Riverside and Los Angeles via BNSF. However, if the line connected to the BNSF about a mile eastwardly also, all the stops on the San Bernardino Line to Los Angeles could be served, plus the new Pomona line to Pasadena and Los Angeles under catenary could be reached also. Seems like a win-win situation.
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I’m not really sure as to the exact route that the Perris Valley commuter line takes once it gets north of UCR. I assumed it took the AT&SF/UP line north to San Berdoo but have noted a sharp curve with about 150º of total curvature north of Citrus St and south of Spring St.
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Erik_Mag:
The Perris Valley Line goes to Riverside, Fullerton, and Los Angeles via that curve you mentioned (north of Citrus St. and south of Spring St.) and does NOT go to San Bernardino. I’m suggesting a Perris train visit San Bernardino and then go west to Los Angeles via Pomona North.
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That’s what I was wondering about from your first post - the “eastwardly” suggested that the line veer east at Highgrove as opposed to going due north to San Bernardino.
Hold on a second. Isn’t that ‘Pomona line under catenary to Pasadena’ the Gold Line, rebuilt to light-rail standards? And you’re going to operate WHAT over it intermixed with the light-rail vehicles?
Does a new commuter line for Metrolink mean more rolling stock or are they pulling some from storage if they have any
I don’t believe Metrolink has much in storage that’s usable. All the F59’s have to be made Tier 4 compliant or be sold off, and I don’t know how many cars are being stored, if any.
Only 5 F59PH-Rs were stored serviceable as of four years ago (plus one F59 with no engine); I doubt any of the remaining units are intact or still on the property.
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Its been awhile since I’ve heard any news about them. Thanks for the info
Woke_Hoagland:
If you got dizzy with a simple explanation, you may get super dizzy with the following, though you are smart and will see things clearly in the end.
I was suggesting a commuter train at the end of the San Bernardino Line (at San Bernardino) would make a quick trip to South Perris and return back to San Bernardino, then return back to Los Angeles via Pomona North.
In that San Bernardino Line, UP has trackage rights Los Angeles to near Claremont, and BNSF has track rights from near Claremont to San Bernardino.
At Pomona North BNSF follows on a separate track the new electrified commuter line to Azusa. The BNSF on a separate track goes west as far are Irwindale. At Azusa, the electrified line continues to Pasadena and then goes to Los Angeles. The Blue Line from Long Beach in downtown Los Angeles now tunnels through downtown to a new connection to the Gold Line. The Blue Line was renamed the “A” Line, and the Gold Line renamed the “L” Line. With the advent to that new tunneling, the names were changed so the “A” and “L” Lines became simply the “A” Line.
Was all that dizzying? The key thing to remember is that the freight rail is alongside the electrified commuter rail between Pomona North and Irwindale.
Anyway, for a song and a dance they could connect two separate lines together and make it very attractive for patrons at the four commuter stops nearest to Perris.