Hey gang. Sorry to sound like a total idiot, but I’ve got an N scale Southern Pacific diesel loco here made by ConCor that I can’t identify. It’s long and rectangular and has four sets of trucks. I’m thinking it’s a UB something or another, but I’m not sure. The box it came in doesn’t have any identification or anything on it. If I had a digital camera I’d post a photo of it for you which I’m sure would greatly help…
Thanks in advance for any help.
Tracklayer
Tracklayer, I would strongly suspect that what you have is an old Con-Cor GE U50. SP did have 3 of them-UP had the rest. Good luck.
I think I found your beast: Con-Cor U50
And here’s some info on the prototype: Southern Pacific
Yep. That’s it!. It’s a U50… Thanks guys. I “VERY MUCH” appreciate your help.
Tracklayer
Tracklayer, if this beast has a nose shaped somewhat like an Alco PA or FA then what you have is a B-B+B-B Onion Specific 4500 horse gas-turbine; Con-Cor produced the Veranda version of this using the same span bolsters as was found under their U50.
The only reason I raise this point is that I found your
just a little ambiguous.
No R. T. POTEET, it actually is an SP U50 just like the one in the link in the reply above. Once I read it I remembered the guy that I got it from talking about it but it didn’t stick in my head like it should have (I’m getting old…). Thanks anyway though.
Tracklayer
The trucks for the U-50 came from the gas turbines, not the other way around.
Government schools???
Why sling insults?
David B
I didn’t sling an insult at anybody but it indeed appears that I left part of my response off! Let me redo it!
Now I will ask my insulting(???) question:
And now David B., this one’s for you:
Everybody scores high on accuracy & knowledge on the General Electric U50.
Since the Con-Cor diesel is identified as a U50 - we can go to Kalmbach’s 1973 handy-dandy “The Second Diesel Spotter’s Guide” on pages 182-183…
“The U50, whose design was instigated by Union Pacafic, was the first of the double-engined versions of the U25-series units. Union Pacific purchased 23 of them, while Southern Pacific bought only 3. These units are 83-6 1/2 long and ride on four 4-wheel trucks with each pair of trucks joined by a span-bolster.”
“The first of the U50C’s were delivered to the Union Pacific in October 1969. The U50C’s are 79’-0” long and ride on C-C trucks that were traded in from UP’s 8500-hp. two-unit turbine locomotives of 1958. The engines on the U50C are mounted with the generator ends facing out from the radiator area. a layout pattern shared with other dual-engine GE’s and EMD’s of recent years. The centered-location of radiators on the car body, large (5000 gallons) fuel tank, and the six-wheel trucks distinguish the U50C from the earlier U50. A bus-like cab with a short hood distinguishes bothe the U50 and U50C from other diesels."
The Kalmbach reference classifies the 5000-hp. locomotive as a road switcher with the trucks of the U50 (manufactured 6/63 - 8/65) as “B+B-B+B”, and the trucks of the U50C as “C-C”.