Crescent for me too. A Pacific or an E unit, either one would suit me fine.
Brad
I’d love the Capitol Limited. I’d put it on the shelf next to my Superliner Capitol Limited.
Regarding the suggestion for the North Coast Limited… Yes! I would like that.
Walthers is part way there with cars they have offered. Needed to complete the train are the Budd dome/sleeper and the observation car.
If Walthers does not intend to produce the NCL, I would like to see the GN observation painted and lettered for the NCL.
My next choice would be the Twin City Zephyr or the Denver Zephyr.
Actually, Alco PA’s were more common on the Daylight although it was not unknown to have mixed Alco and E unit consists. Solid E7 consists were rare. Espee only had 18 E7 units (both A and B including the rebuilt E2 unit from the COSF). Including units that came west from the T&NO and Cotton Belt, SP had 66 PA/PB units. Even when the lone E8 ( 6018) and the nine E9’s (6046-6054) are added to the EMD total, SP still had only 28 E units, less than half the Alco total.
E7’s had weak traction motors compared to the competition which was one of the reasons SP removed them from the Shasta Daylight and substituted PA’s. E7’s never were assigned to any train over the Sierra, the Tehachapi’s or the Cascades (other than the original assignment to the Shasta Daylight). The 2.2% Cuesta grade north of San Luis Obispo is relatively short and within the limits of the short time rating for E7 traction motors.
There wasn’t a whole lot of difference between the 1941 “Daylight” and the train as it appeared in 1955 (after dieselization) other than a few cars built postwar (some of which were originally built for the “Shasta Daylight”) which were assigned to the “Daylight” pool.
The “Lark” would be a better train for Walthers than a postwar “Daylight” if they were to do an SP train. Either that, or a “Sunset Limited”.
Andre
Whatever the train is, it’ll most likely follow Walthers’ criteria based on past patterns:
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Hauled by E- or F- units (made by Proto2000)
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Each train has at least 8 unique passenger cars
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Each train has a different paint scheme (or at least potentially) beyond the original (includes Amtrak schemes)
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One of the end points of the train is Chicago.
Considering the fact that the El Capitan is a named train of a railroad that already had one of its trains modeled before (Santa Fe), this could open the door for another railroad getting the same honor.
Capitol Limited fits [;)]
Actually, I think they missed a solid opportunity with the Amtrak 40th to actually put together the anniversary train in one set. All the pieces are there, but it takes some effort to gather everything.
Andre:
The “Lark” would be a good train, but I’d also throw in a vote for the SP/UP/C&NW “Overland”, especially the post-war version that was a mixture of two-tone gray streamline and heavyweights. Of course you could kinda/sorta put one together at the present from existing Walther’s SP/UP two-tone gray stock, at least for the heavyweight cars, but I’m not sure if any of the streamlined cars exist in that color scheme.
Tom
Andre:
The “Lark” would be a good train, but I’d also throw in a vote for the SP/UP/C&NW “Overland”, especially the post-war version that was a mixture of two-tone gray streamline and heavyweights. Of course you could kinda/sorta put one together at the present from existing Walther’s SP/UP two-tone gray stock, at least for the heavyweight cars, but I’m not sure if any of the streamlined cars exist in that color scheme.
Tom
Tom,
I actually mentioned the “Overland” in one of my posts on this subject. I think mixed streamline and heavyweight cars makes an attractive passenger train, especially with mixed paint jobs. Another cool train would be Santa Fe’s “Grand Canyon”
Andre
Hey, it’s easy! All you need to do is pick from one of the following Class I railroads:
| Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad |
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| Alabama Great Southern Railroad |
| Alabama, Tennessee and Northern Railroad |
| Alabama and Vicksburg Railway |
| Alton Railroad |
| Amtrak |
| Ann Arbor Railroad |
| Arizona Eastern Railroad</ |
Here is a comprehensive list of famous named passenger trains:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_named_passenger_trains
Lots to choose from.
Rich
Well, my vote is for the “City of New Orleans” - which is probably more known for the song than the train itself. That being said, as much as I would like to see it, I suspect Walthers would conclude that the audience for said train would be fairly narrow…
But, who knows???
I noticed Walthers doing the Santa Fe and a UP City train that would start and terminate its run in Los Angeles Union Station. What ever happend to the LA Union Station kit that they had advertised last year? Will they ever produce the kit or just not enough orders for the kit?
Still to be produced. Lots of trouble with the 3rd party manufacturer, but I think they might finally be in production.
Estimated as a March 30, 2012 release
The platforms were just released, so I guess that is a good sign the depot is also on its way:
With LAUPT presumably coming out in a few months, an SP Sunset Limited trainset might be another good train option for Walthers. Or if Walthers likes the wave of support and pre-orders they’ve received from the Santa Fe Hi-Level El Cap, then maybe a Santa Fe San Diegan could be next.
Here’s one out of left field…since we are running out of famous passenger trains…
Walthers could put one of these together. There’s a very large variety of rolling stock and accessories, in addition to the standard pullmans and paired coahces. There’s also a universal appeal for a number of collectors for circus trains. It’s always one of the most popular at our annual shows as well.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=615051480462
*courtsey miniature railroad club of york
GTW – Mohawk between Detroit and Chicago, with GP9s.
Walthers already offered a circus train some 10 to 15 years ago including box cars, passenger cars and flat cars. So technically you want them to offer ANOTHER circus trains!
BTW, a simple ebay key word search “walthers circus” will bring up all kinds of Walthers circus stuff available to buy.
Yours looks nice, but wouldn’t mind seeing one offered that actually ran during my life time, not ancient history. Something operated from the 1960’s or newer.
Glitchy forums duplicated last post - edited to remove since there is no delete function. They really need to fix that.
Since this has sort of morphed from the question of what we THINK it will be to what we WANT it to be … I want so many it is hard to choose. I want a:
- CB&Q - Denver Zephyr (with the unique square end obervation)
- C&S - Texas Zephyr (with the E5 locomotives).
- NP - North Coast Limited (with the dome sleeper)
- CRI&P - Rocky Mountain Rocket (with the unique “B” unit with a cab).
- MP - Colorado Eagle (with the unique E7s with round port holes).
- COG - Nancy Hanks II (with the unique divided coaches and hand-me-down NW dome)
- NW - Powhatan Arrow ( with the P4 class, #581 and #582 observation cars )
- PRR, ACL, SAL, RF&P - Champion (rainbow of colors on the point, could do all cars for trains from 1939 through Amtrak)
But really I would like to see next is any heavy weight train pulled by a 4-8-4. But, oh, they have discontinued the Proto Heritage locos. sigh. Well maybe an AT&SF California Limited that I can pull with with my Broadway Limited Northern.
Thanks to all who have or will repluy to my Forum question.
I feel a few readers have hit it on the head with the intent of my question.
This was posed as a “What will they make next” (designed, tooling and going into production) NOT as a “What I’d like to see” question… The guide lines for their models have bneen as follows:
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Trains pulled by E-7 or 8s and F-7s, never steam or electric.
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They DO priimarily cater to Western trains first.
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Since the El Cap finishes in April-May, the next train will have to be of sufficient cars-a-month to carry them over the Summer and into the Fall-Christmas market.
My own opinion is it will be the NP North Coast Limited (Hopefully in Lowey green, not the earlier pine tree scheme).
Yes, I would also like to see an SP Sunset Limuited, SOUTHERN Rwy. Crescent, or SouthEast train (C&O, ACL, SAL) or SP lark and or Cascade (The Daylight has already gone to overkill) as well as a PRR Congressional-Senator, but again, the column was What are they putting into production.
The Broadway Limited (at least Pennsylvania station to Harrisburg) - GG1
Although I understand what DougNash really meant, so that brings up the question what locomotives besides E or F units does Walthers currently offer which were used on somewhat famous name trains?