It has been said (name withheld and no offence to him) that some of my signature quotes are or might be offensive and vulgar to some veiwers of the forums. They are true quotes (one is meant to be a reminder of attitude), but I can see them as being negative. Are they too much? I was thinking of changing one or two to something else before we got into a bit of a row on a different subject. I can be a bit of a bone head at times but don’t want to be like a Mr. Gibbson and turn people away from everything I may post. (I may have something worth reading or looking at someday)
Are they too much? No, not for me. I’m from liberal Holland, so I see worse than this on daytime TV (regardless of wether that is good or bad). I find the quotes rather amusing, especially the one about UP.
That said, I would not use them myself, but hey, I’m not bothered by it.
The quote about Satan’s tool is amusing, and a reminder of how times have changed. That’s not to say that someone, somewhere, wouldn’t find it offensive. These days that’s not hard to do.
The implied profanity, on the other hand, is a little more likely to set someone off, especially when it includes a specific target. Think of it this way - if you wouldn’t say it at the dinner table, or at a restaurant, don’t use it here, implied or not.
I can understand your quotes and I am not an angel either. However, in this day and age, the decline of courtesy and politeness and the increase of Me First makes it very topical. And that is too bad.
We have a world of quotes out there that are intelligent, cute, funny and sometimes thought provoking, so it isn’t necessary to use quotes that you have to bleep out the words.
The forum has every age imaginable on here and to conduct yourself in a mannerly fashion speaks well of your character. You learn from watching others. You teach by example. What are you teaching?
Sorry, I will be the lone stickler, but I am offended by the middle quote and the deeper implications that it obviously alludes to. In fact, when I think of the full extent of the meaning of that quote, it is just about one of the most offensive things I have heard in some time.
Gabe
With Gabe and Mookie on that…
If you can’t say it in front of your Mom, then you might not want to say it here.
And yes, what are you teaching?
That using words like that are OK?
How would you feel if someone used that word towards your mother?
How about showing and teaching that you are smart enough to get your point across without using such language, that you have a good enough command of english to make your point even more clearly, in a manner that doesn’t offend.
I’d already added “WP3020” to my short list of posters to avoid, but the title of this particular post caught my eye for obvious reasons. I agree with several others here … the standard English language is too rich and colorful without having to resort to profanity and insults (open or disguised) to get your message across.
That said, if the forum community and moderators want this type of stuff on the forum, so be it. ''WP3020" posts will just continue to be among those few I avoid in the future.
Thanks for asking and in so polite a manner.
Personally I’m not offended but I’m in agreement with those that voiced their opinons, especially the middle quote. I’d remove that one if it were me. The bottom one could be changed, same reasoning, to ‘messed up’ and those that want to can insert their own colorful metaphors where appropriate.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the gratutious use of profanity shows a general absence of class as much as anyone and think it should be avoided. However, I am surprised the profanity even makes it on anyone’s radar when quote #2 is considered.
Implying dogs are suprior to/better companions to women, coupled with the use of the chosen venacular to express this preference is really quite demeaning. The level of insecurity required of someone to even think of such a quote blows my mind–I am sure there is a freudian explanation . . .
Worse yet, I am serving to further his desparate cry for attention–by chosing to point this out to everyone in the hopes of attracting attention to himself–by commenting on this post rather than ignoring it like I had probably ought to do.
Congratulations, you have succeeded in bringing me down to your level. I need to go take a shower.
[:(]
Gabe
They do not offend me, but I really can’t say they impress me either. (yawn)
At least you are not peddling some elitist “secret society” snobbery in yours
WP, My skin is thick and it would take much more then a few words from someone I don’t know to really offend me. But we have some very young members on this forum that don’t need to be exposed to that kind of stuff.
We don’t know you and the only way we can guage what you are like is by the words you post here. Do you really want that to be what you are “judged by” (for lack of a better term)?
When you have to substitute special characters, you have violated the spirit of the forum rules. In a sense we are guests here and should abide by the rules of the host. Also, I find nothing wrong with striving for polite conversation - profanity is so overworked these days that it has become a speech impediment for most people. The first one is thus okay, but the second two should go. Personally, I find that the first quote to be an amusing comment on how things have changed over time, the second quote to be more demeaning to the poster than anyone else, and the third quote to be a bit tedious.
Enjoy
Paul
Oh boy, I can’t begin to tell you all how much I dislike this societal tendency towrds political correctness…everybody should simply be able to tell everybody else exactly what they think and not worry about offending anybody…period.
How about this one?
“The passenger train is like the male teat: neither functional nor attractive.”
I forget who said that. Someone from the olden days. A robberbaron, I believe. Anyway, have fun trying to find who said it. Right now I’m too far away from my resources and running out of time to look it up.
If this is tongue-in-cheek, then ok. If not, then I am surprised. I have always found you to be a pretty respectful poster.
I hate the PC part - I always think of it as just good manners, something we are woefully lacking these days. Manners and respect, all the things that don’t come to mind when I see some of the garbage out there today. It makes our world a little more soiled.
Driver respects me and opens my car door for me. Had other males ask me if my arm was broke if I waited for the car door to be opened.
My boss who is young enough to almost be my grandson, tramples me to get on the elevator first. As do most of the young people in this building.
But then I, in turn, must earn that respect. So back to square one. Swearing won’t earn you a lot of respect, just attention.
Ms. Moo…
Well said Mookie.
Oh, go blow it out your bazooka you little flatlander toad and keep your pie-hole shut.
Just kidding, buddy. [:)]
Now my office mates are wondering what is tickling my funny bone!
So it looks like the overwhelming verdict is that the 2nd and 3rd quotes are not appropriate. Yet they have not been removed.