OPEC and GM are like Crack dealers.

Thanks but no…I’ve already sold 1 child, a kidney and had to give up my crack habit to pay for our little slice of heaven in the People’s Republic of Kalifoornia

Those of you that think planned obsolesance is not a part of automobile manufactures program need to get a clue. Remember the Checker car co.? They were making million mile cars how long ago?
If the mfgrs. goal was to make long lasting cars, they would find themselves out of bussiness in no time.
And as for GM buying up the patends for fuel saving devices.
I don’t think it’s the mfgrs. doing this, But you can count on the oil interests doing all they can to eliminate this threat. Do some reasearch on energy devices and it will not take you long to see this for yourself. I personaly have built fuel vaporizers that work unbelievable wonders on fuel mileage. The designs I based my devices on were 70+ years old. Yet you never hear of these types of devices in the main stream.

Some things to ponder

Carnot efficiency rules.

Any car will run 1M miles - just keep renewing wear surfaces, bearings, etc.

Where is Checker today? (and why?) Where did Checker buy their drive trains? What was the source of Checker’s original designs?

The obsolesence of automotive design is not planned. Old designs become obsolete because better designs come along.

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you left out one very importaint question in that statment… do the spelling offenders realy give a crap…i know i dont…
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Which reminds me, Dan–the kidney was already too worn out, the kid ran away, and the crack was cut; naughty, naughty.

Sorry…all sales final.

Now I do have a liver, pretty high mileage though…

And we are the crackheads.

GM would be ecstatic if people wanted GM’s cars like addicts want crack.

…On the question of where Checker purchased their drive trains…I can answer some of that…The last models were using production Chevrolet engines and we {Borg Warner automotive}, were suppling the auto. transmissions…and they were made just like other production models as far as quality parts used in them…I was right to the asssembly line and watched them installed…That’s a few years ago now…

That would be correct!

So, the guys who made “million mile cars” used the same parts as nefarious GM with their sneaky plot to adict us to “planned obsolete” cars.

Oh, please!

What next? Lincoln was abducted by aleins and is the father of Madonna’s child?

Crack dealers!!! Plumbers?; they often show crack…

Strippers sell glimpses of crack, and prostitutes . . . well . . .

No appoligies here…
I live on one corner of the Golden Triangle…and my railroad handles thousands of tank cars each year, full of some type of product made from crude…
So what I really want is for each and every one of you to drive some place tonight…in fact, drive some place far…

In all seriousness, making gasoline is not the only use for crude oil…the plastic keyboard you are typing on, the shell around your monitor, the shoes on you feet, in fact, just about everything in your home in some way used a oil related product, either directly in the product itself, or in its manufacturing.

I love to point out to the tree huggers(no offense, we need more trees) who lean against their Volvo wagon, in polyester running shoes, wearing a pair of slacks, cotton and polyester, pumping gas into their car, whos contents, about 90% of it parts, are made from some form of oil product, that they can complain about my gas hog Magnum all they want too, but that almost every thing they are wearing, and every thing they use each and every day is made from oil and its by products.

By the way, the Magnum is now getting average 18 mpg city, for a 4400 lbs car with a V8, that aint bad at all, and it meets tier 3 emmisions…

Take a serious look around where you are sitting right now, I bet you can find over 50 different items that, in some shape or form, used oil in its production.

The very internet you are using right now has to have fiber optics, made from oil related products…something as simple as a zipper made from plastic, to the super fine lube used to oil the bearing in your iceboxs compressor, you couldnt survive in the manner you expect with out it.

Burning a candle?
Odds are the wax in it is parafin.

The uses for it are so numerous as to be almost beyond counting.

Take a good look around and see what I mean…

Ed

To quote the late great Rick James.( Cocaine is a hell of a drug!)[swg]

Cheers,
Carl T.