Good evening Leon something tall and cold preferably made with hops[:D] Ended up being a hot one today on the final day of the August long weekend.Simcoe day today in honour of John Greaves Simcoe our first GG.Of coarse now it’s normally refered to as the Civic holiday
**Tom-**Yes it was good talking at you this afternoon,right after I got of the phone with you my fence building buddy showed up and we finished our job ( gate and top rails )
Okay lets see some great stuff Loved the Wabash info.At one point it ran trains through Southern Ontario on trackage rights. Even had some F units and GP’s built in London to run on their Canadian runs.Great posters as well. Nice to see that our new reborn, reborn, reborn bar is still chock full of good stuff.
I don’t think I had posted the shot of the line car before. The NS&T had two of them,both home built in their shops in St Catharines. They also built the line car for the sister road Oshawa Railway. Their number 45 is at our museum and still being used as it was intended to working overhead repairs and maintenance.
**Pete-**Ah yes you caught the catch on the tab repayment[:D] Wecare luckey that two of those locomotives have been preserved L3 was not saved however some of it’s internal parts are in our parts supply,for when we get around to getting L2 back up and running.
Lets see a few more photo’s for this evening.
Oshawa line car 45 pushing locomotive 335 upto the
Uh oh looks like I started page three,that’s almost nose bleed territory,we’ll have to be carefull and have bar number five ready to roll.[:-^]
Something from the absement from back when we had theme days every Tuesday [tup]
CLASSIC STEAM #37 BOAT TRAINS IN NORTHERN ONTARIO
Well , to round out today’s theme of classic boat trains, here’s my small piece to the larger story in the railroad world. Canada had several boat train operations,most were based around railway barges ferrying freight cars and passenegers accross straits or harbours as in the operations across the Detroit River or on some of the earlier CPR and BC rail operations to and from Vancouver Island. My home province has had some interesting rail and water operations as well, in the passenger end of the spectrum there are two or three that I can find some ready info on. I’m sure that there were more.
The first one I will touch on operated for a good 50 years in my own backyard right from my hometown. The interurban railway Thre Niagara St Catharines & Toronto operated boat train of a fashion.As disscussed before the NS&T operated interurban and street railway operations in the Niagara peninsula from the late 1880’s to 1959,electric freight operations continued on until 1961.From the mid 1890’s to 1953 you could ride the Niagara interurban from Port Colbourne on Lake erie down to Port Dalhousie on Lake Ontario ( St Catharines ) picking up the car in any of the communities along the line,Merriton , Thorold , Niagara Falls, etc and ride down to Lakeside Park which was along the lakeside it operated a full theme park and picnic areas, grandstand etc.In 1895 the Steamer Dalhousie City was chartered to bring people accross the lake from Toronto Island for summer excursions, soon this became a thriving cross lake service, eventually adding a second ship the
Leon, the usual round of Tuis for all the guys please![yeah]
Rob. Had the same problem logging in as you the same day as you did. A really fine twofer spread of trolley pix from you and the Classic Steam #37 with all the info on the Boat Trains and the fine pix of the Muskoka fleet.[:)][tup]
Eric. KiwiRail is what they call a government State Owned Enterprise as of July 1st 2008, their is some good info on this site together with links to OnTrack who are responsible for the track;
A nice selection of random pix including one of the 2nd Class Saloon in the snow.[:)][tup]
CM3. Nice to see you in. “N Scale all the way” to quote that old Santa Fe ad.[yeah][tup]
Pete. Sir Nigel Gresley doing 72mph uphill on Stoke Bank with 13 coaches is truly amazing, a tribute to the restoration and maintenance crew who take such great care of him.[wow] It will be great to see the new “Tornado” doing something similar to that in the near future.[:)][tup]
Nick. Good to see you in with a great selection of GWR pix mate.[^][tup]
Tom. That empty space in my last post was a PURE mistake, somehow my Word pasted my post TWICE![banghead] We had an increase in our WWII membership here after the 60th anniversary of the start of WWII, still a good few left who have never joined. Great to read you had heard of Lonnie Donegan over there, (he was a cannon cocker too!) he ended up playing for the Chris Barber Jazz Band for a long time till he passed on.
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G’day Gents!
And the days are dwindling down to a precious few . . . It’s TUESDAY again, the most non-descript of ‘em all. BUT, take heart me hearties - there’s fresh Joe in the urns, pastries beggin’ to be devoured along with ‘n breakfasts to be ordered. So all’s not lost! [swg]
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A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH[tup].
I thought I would drop off a couple of photos this AM.[tup]. The last of the LNER engines for now,[:(] these three are the only survivors of their classes in the UK.
Sir Nigel Gresley’s V2 class 2-6-2 60800(LNER number 4771) ’ Green Arrow’ of 1936, the loco was named for the Green Arrow fast freight service from London to Edinburgh. The V2s gained a very good reputation during the war for their haulage capacity. In 1958 60800 was shedded at King’s Cross shed in London.
In preservation days Green Arrow was a very popular performer on main line tours. Here 60800 is at Carlisle before hauling a special over the Settle & Carlisle line.
A Gresley 1932 rebuild of Great Eastern Railway CME S.D. Holden’s 1911 design, B12 4-6-0 No.8572(BR No. 61572) at Leicester North on the preserved Great Central Railway.8572 was at the East Anglian shed of Ipswich in 1958.
The only surviving GCR frieght locomotive in the UK,class O4 2-8-0 No. 63601, again at Leicester North. The class was introduced in 1911, a J.G. Robinson design. Several of this class of locomotive saw service in WWI, it is believed some of the class still exist in Australia. In 1958 63601 worked off the ex GC shed of Frodingham Lincolnshire.
Finally made it back from a looooooooooong morning. All’s well for those who’ve been following this via Email . . . [tup]
I see Pete’s been “in” to help out in Shane’s "slot"with some fine Brit RR Pix! [bow]
With so few to pick up the slack during daylite, it’s most appreciated ‘n helpful to have guys like the Wolfman around. BUT, having said that - take note: He’s skeedaddling out for the weekend! Yep - won’t be doing his chores on Friday nite thru Saturday. Probably will even be late for HIS B’day on Monday! [swg]
Here’s a little something to lighten up the mood on this Tuesday . . . this one hasn’t been seen at any of our bars . . .
Now Arriving on Track #1
A Nickel’s Worth of Classic Covers!
Number Eight
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TOM Great to talk with you yesterday[^][tup], yes a couple of TrainWreck Saloon brews would have gone down well to combat the heat we are having at the present[^]. Really glad it was OK today as well.[tup]
Many thanks for the Wabash Back in the Day[^][tup], an interesting read. It is sad to see how much of the original Wabash ROW has been abandoned today though[:(]. The name still lives on though on some bridges and old stations like this one in Columbia MO. part of the Wabash line north of the station is in use for Columbia Terminal, which connects with the NS at Centralia. The Wabash name can be made out on the front of the old Columbia station when enlarged[tup]
That is a good map and I see the Wabash reached Glasgow Mo where it joined the Chicago and Alton now KCS line.
I think the Wabash had some of the most attractive drumheads[bow].
Enjoyed the RR Advertisements from the Classic Era[^][tup]. The artwork on them is marvelous[bow] I like the art deco style on the NYC and the detail in the Switzerland one[^]. I wonder what year the New Haven Boston poster was from[?] I like its style as well[yeah].
Many thanks for the links to the Johnny Cash videos[tup], not only a great singer but also a good reader as well as in the 2nd video.[bow]
Good evening Leon. In for a relaxing glass or two of Keith’s.Another hot one today followed by a couple really big thunder storms.
**Tom-**Good to hear that you may have the leak problem figured out and hopefully beat. Will keep the thumbs up and fingers crossed for you on that one.Nice looking magazine covers today as well.
I’m glad that you liked the re-read.Who knows perhaps we can maybe get back to those theme days ( or weeks )
I saw today that the Pearson airport rail links in the news again ( bad again of coarse ) seems that the neigbours are a bit riled as the plan right now is that the Provincial government is going to shell out 300 million to build the infrastructure.But the equipment and the profits are going to be the sole domain of SNC Lavelin the line operator. They are envisioning a non stop airport to Union station link at $20 bucks a head with no stops in between.They are billing it as an all buisness man’s (buisiness class ) link instead of a straight run for everyone.So the taxpayers are a bit PO’d they want it to have regular service stops in between and be part of the regular public transit link. So the battle continues. I can see their point though,public money funding and building a transport link for only some people ? I can see why the debates heated up again.
**Pete-**So survived another bout in Vito’s chair eh,well what does not kills you makes you stronger they say.Great looking shots in both posts today.Nice looking colourfull steamers as always.Nice to see the stations as well.
335 was a powerfull unit it was classed a type B 50 ton locomotive. It’s horsepower would be the equivilent to a mid range diesel powered GP type locomotive…It and L2 are long term projects as
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Wednesday’s Witticism
Circuit-ridin’ preachers are so poor that if they didn’t fast twice a week, they’d starve to death.
G’day Gents!
Hump Day fo the working stiffs in the crowd! [swg] So, why not join us for breakfast before trudging off to your labors [?] [tup]
The smell of freshly baked pastries ‘n our special blend coffee is enough to jump start the appetite for a or breakfast! So, let’s get a move on . . . [swg]
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In case anyone is wondering - Eric has been experiencing difficulties with his modem - hopefully he’ll be back with us sooner rather than later . . . [tup]
A cup of your famous coffee and a bacon sarnie please RUTH[tup].
A couple of photos from the Strathspey Railway in the Highlands of Scotland[tup]. The locomotive in the first pics is a J.F. McIntosh 1899 design for the Caledonian Railway, an 0-6-0 it was known as class 812 on the CR and classified 3F by the LMS.The loco is in its BR livery carring the BR number 57566 at Boat of Garten.
57566 gets ready to leave for Aviemore. The loco was shedded at the port of Ardrossan in 1958.
This was from an earlier visit when the loco was in the attractive Caledonian Blue livery[^] running as their No.828. This is at the SR’s Aviemore station.
The Strathspey Railway now runs in to a platform at the BR Aviemore station on the Perth to Inverness main line. Here is another of the SR fleet Austerity 0-6-0ST No 9.
A pint of Bathams please RUTH[tup] to celebrate the slightly cooler weather here[^].
ROB Glad you enjoyed the photos.[tup]
Many thanks for the information on #335[tup]. Yes I guess a locomotive like 335 would be a bit hard on the track. Thinking about it brought another thought to mind, when locomotives as powerful as 335 were in normal service would there be a limit to the load they could haul so it did not overload the power supply[?].
So I guess # 1326 is used mainly on gala days at the museum, I am sure it is very popular on those days.[bow]
In Northern England there is a preserved line that connects with the steamers on Lake Windermere, and is very popular combining a boat trip and a ride behind a steam locomotive[tup].
TOM I hope Eric can get his modem fixed soon[yeah].
I do enjoy finding railroad bridges and buildings with the name of a fallen flag on them[yeah]; there is one down Springfield Mo. Way with FRISCO still on it.[^]
Yes that must have been it,[tup] seeing the Railroad Man’s Magazine at the Barriger Library, I still feel a little[:(] when we found the last issues of the Railroad Magazine, which I recall had adverts to the British Railway Magazine in a couple of them.
Wouldn’t it be great if the TrainWreck Saloon or Pat’s Place was within walking distance of the Barriger Library[^] we could enter there and not be seen for weeks[:D].
Fame at last[wow], I shall have to invent some more words[:D].
Good Afternoon Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Gas is at $3.97 here. My apologies for not posting but environmental concerns as I explained to OSP have prevented regular appearances. Hope to be back at regular spot on Friday.
Allan was in - good to hear from you.
Rob - Nice pictures and a rerun of the boat train article.
Pete - Green Arrow is beautiful! Next time you are at the library see if they have a copy of Apex of the Atlantics - several pictures in there of PRR stenciling. Your post hit just as I was about (!@#$ laptop) to send this one. Will copy your article and read it.
Nick was by with comments.
OSP - Mocking Doves? If it keeps the neighbors happy, why not? They are good breeders. Nice Wabash offering, Grafix classics, and classic covers. Link and pin - dangerous - missing fingers were a brakeman’s badge of occupation.
I have rec’d. read and responded too e mails - I think.
Bar Chandler Petecame by with another fine offering this PM! [tup] Anyway - do appreciate the attentiveness to DUTY - too bad that “feeling” doesn’t extend to weekends!
Hmmmmmmm, I think I detected some ‘code’ in that concert you’re going to tonite - methinks it will all wind up in an Irish Pub! Hmmmmm, wonder where that could possibly BE [?] Hmmmmmmm.
Then I LOST “this” Post as ‘somehow’ it must’ve wound up competing with Shane’s submission - probably both hit the “send” button at the same time - or close 'enuf to awake the Gremlins! Thank heavens for SAVING while in WP!
Good to see ya Shane - not to worry, we understand the situation 'n will carry on, as best we can, 'til our comes back to full strength! [bow]
Okay - since it is Wednesday at the Bar by the Ballast, we’ve had a “tradition” of sorts of providing some fun with Toy ‘n Model Trains - so, here’s a continuation of that idea!
Good evening all,greetings from the other side of the big water,leon-beer for the entire company please-must confess,am the worse for wear after tonights show,-could go off on one here about our next show,where I am the only guitarist,but would be wildly off topic and we cant be doing with that…
As it happens have managed some work on the layout -the line into the top station has been slewed across to make room for a carriage siding(at least 7 cars) and still clear of the gasworks spur,the line in has been re-laid with 5` radius turnouts and it all ties in very nicely-pix to follow
Just for once I feel like I have got it right…the acid test is yet to come-will keep you all posted…whoppee-here we go then…
Good evening folks. Leon a big round of everyone’s favourite tonight on the manager.It was a busy day off for me spent most of it at the hospital. ( not abad thing so don’t get excited Boris ) Heather’s sister has added another member to the family so we spent a good deal of the day with them.Yes Boris you can break out those Cuban cigars ( just don’t eat yorus like the last time )
**Tom-**I did notice Pete’s latest weekend dissappearing act.I guess I didn’t react because it happens sooo often anymore ,That’s okay it just means that his tab gets abused by the on the days ( daze ) he’s away.[:-^]
Great drumheads and photo’s from the trainroom sir. I love the builders plates. I’m assuming that they are reproductions and not removed from the real thing.I know that we won’t get back to theme days ,but they were a wonderfull part of bar number one and two [tup]
What can I say corporate JO’s live in both countries.What burns me the most is that the rail mounted Limo’s they intend to use are the string of RDC’s that VIA is storing in the Mimico yard.They are going to refurbish them with new powerplants seats etc which makes it both a good thing and a bad thing. Good that if the plan goes ahead those RDC’s will be prowling GTA tracks,bad that all of us won’t be able to enjoy them if the plan stays the same.
Got the latest emails so I’m upto date. I hope that Eric’s puter problems are short lived.
**Pete-**More great photo’s and some interesting insights on the various classes of locomotives.
Yes 335 and L2 will be hard on our trackage.They tend to pound the track more tha
The usual round of Tuis for all the guys please![yeah]
Tom. A couple of nice links to those two Johnny Cash versions of The Rock Island Line, the one with his reading intro was a bit different. Lonnie D was in the artillery 1949/51 for his two year national service stint. Some real nice covers in your Nickels Worth of Classic Covers #8. A very nice selection of Classic Drumheads by the Dozen in #7 of the series and a fine lot of signs from the Can Am Train Room in Pt 1.[bow] Good to hear you have found the possible source of your basement water problem at last.[:)] Had that “Down for Maintenance” problem about 5 hrs ago, 1.30pm, have just posted this after seeing Rob`s post when I managed to get in at 6.30pm here![banghead][:)][tup][tup]
Pete. A real nice set of LNER era pix with the “Green Arrow”, the B12 and the 04 all in mint condition. Its amazing that Sir Nigels driver had to rein him back going up Stoke Bank, everything must be in top working condition mechanically, a real tribute to the shed staff.[wow] They really must class A1 Tornado as a totally new loco by my thoughts about it, she is brand spanking NEW! Some fine pix from the Strathspey Rly and enjoyed your write up on the LNER loco types, their inception and naming, thanks mate.[bow] Have not been too interested in the Tri Nations rugby just lately, its become very boring with the media saturating all the news with counter claims and stupid remarks ad nauseum.[|(][:)][tup]
Rob. Good to see you in. The government have just announced a NZ$80 million injection into KiwiRail to upgrade the passenger equipment and services, so thing`s are on the up and up
Leon, how are you? Good to see you again! A sugar cured ham sandwich would be perfect. A cold Tui!
Back again after missing a couple of days! Got the new modem yesterday but after it was hooked up and running we had a severe thunderstorm so I felt it was better/safer to close down everything and postpone my visit.
Tom – Hope you are right about finding the source of your water problem! It sounds very likely that you are right. [:)]
We used to have a person who could take care of cats, dog and birds while we were gone, but he passed away a few years ago and right now we don’t have anyone who is qualified. Which means we can’t stay away over night at the same time.[|(]
The gal on the bicycle? I have no clue who she is/was. Never seen her before. Or after. Sorry to disappoint you![:-,] The caption for the EMU photo is okay, but what we really did was using a steel wire to tie a valve in closed position. The train had hit some debris that hit the valve so it did not stay closed. In open position it let the compressed air out of the reservoirs. But after 5 minutes hard work the train could continue.
Good movies, as always at the Emporium this week! Streets of Laredo and the Harvey Girls (those girls used to work at the Grand Canyon!!!).[:)]
Thanks for the SP named trains list! Quite a few! I never heard about Arizona Limited before! Chicago - Phoenix![:)]
Congratulations Tom![yeah] You were active in the Coast Guard during 14 2/3% of its existence! That is quite a bit![wow]
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G’day Gents!
Breakfast on this Thursday morning only requires your interest in it! [tup] Coffee ‘n pastries are fresh ‘n the Menu Board contains our ‘n kick-start meals! [yeah]
This is going to be “one of those days ” as I’ll be away 'til mid-late afternoon . . .
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And the drought continued with Eric having modem problems - Shane in a rather unhealthy situation at work - our ONLY irregular part-timer logging in but not visiting, etc., etc., etc. Do appreciate the efforts from those who take the time ‘n make the effort - YOU are the guyz who are keeping us going! [bow]
A cup of coffee and I’ll try a bacon sarnie please RUTH[tup]. As[4:-)] Tom predicted, after a really marvellous concert by the Irish Fushcia Band[bow][tup][tup][tup] a trip to Pat’s Place did ensue[oops] with the bride opting out as it was getting late.The band members turned up there too and they were great guys[tup]. I am feeling, how shall we say, a bit delicate this AM.[:)].
I have some ex LMS locomotives photos.[tup].
On the Keighley and Worth Valley Railway at Ingrow, a London & North Western 0-6-2 ‘Coal Tank’ No 1054. Introduced in 1882 a F.W. Webb design mainly for the L&NWR lines in the West part of the coalfields in South Wales some members of the class lasted in BR service until the mid 1950s.As BR No.58926 her last shed was Abergavenny which had a sub-shed at Tredegar.
A couple of photos with class 5 no 45110 with some more modern motive power in the background. At Birmingham International station with a class 86 electric locomtive approaching.
I think this was on the same tour as the previous pic, The Staffordshire Terrier, at Chester with a class 101 Metro-Cammell DMU in the background.
At Bury Bolton Street station on the preserved East Lancs Railway a H.G.Ivatt 1946 design 2-6-0 class 2MT No 46441. The loco is carring The Mancunian’ train headboard although I doubt if this class of locomotive worked that train. These locos worked on the some