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Proprietor rescinds !
In a rare move this morning, the Proprietor of the tavern known as “Our” Place was forced to rescind a penalty levied upon an irrregular-part time customer at the bar.
Seems that the Proprietor was found guity of NOT READING THE WORDS, which is something he regularly accuses others of. Seems he accused the customer of failing to order food or drink upon entering - a clear violation of rules at the bar.
Therefore, the and follow-up penalty levied upon one Fegmiester has been lifted. Apologies and restitution for pain and suffering, mental anguish along with loss of self-esteem has been offered in the form of a week’s worth of Keiths beverages in bottomless steins.
In other news, the Can-Am County Olympic Swimming Team suffered a humiliating set back this morning when the women’s underwater specialists . . . . <see page 36>
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TOM Many thanks for the signs from the Can-Am Train Room.[tup][tup][tup] That is a great metal sign with the U.S. railroad logos, as you say the photo must be enlarged to get the full impact[tup] and the two posters from the Polar Express film[^].
I don’t think the UK is nowhere near as foggy as it used to be when I was a kid we used to get some real pea soupers then.[:O]
Glad I was able to help out with the Welsh Marches info[tup]. Yes the bar is really a great place for learning about this great hobby of ours.[tup][tup][tup].
Really great to see the Mentor Village Gazette reporters are still alive and well providing a valuable 24/7 news service and carrying the adverts people want[^][bow][tup].
ROB Glad you enjoyed the photos[tup]. Yes the locomotive crews must have been made of hard stuff in the old days[bow], imagine running a train in Canada or the Scottish Highlands in the depth of winter with just a tarp keeping the snow a cold wind out[:O]. I guess some of the locomotives built in the UK for the colder countries had enclosed cabs.
It is good a Master Mechanic had a locomotive named after him[^]. I guess the Ohio Central steam excursions are popular do they run excursions with their older diesels[?].
Luckily there was not a ‘reverse angle’ (so to speak[:)]) camera at the incident with Helga. She has kept silent as to what
As I was about to Post my mid-day offering, along came Pete! [bow] Even as slow as things have been 'round here in daylite <'n they surely have!> it’s a pleasure to have Shane in his AM slot 'n Pete hold up the afternoon portion. Don’t know what we’re going to do when the Wolfman is gone for a MONTH!
Finally finished printing out fotos <4x6> from Rendezvous III. What a stack! Now to place them in albums . . . Doesn’t appear that anyone is interested in exchanging discs . . . so, I’ll remain content with what I took. [tup]
So, here’s the submission found in the sub-basement archives room . . .
Now Arriving on Track #1
Back in the Day - Number Eight
The Broadway Limited of thePennsylvaniaRailroad
<Initially Posted on 03 Dec 2007, Page 148 at “Our” Place III>
Back earlier than I expected and missed the rain[tup] so a Holden’s Special please RUTH.[tup]
TOM I will have to try to get on a computer when I am in Britain[tup].
Many thanks for the Back in the Day on The Broadway Limited or the PRR[tup][tup][tup]. It must have been quite a daily sight to see the Broadway Limited on the road with a GG1. I guess the regular passengers were quite loyal to ether the PRR Limited or NYC’s 20th Century Limited. It would be quite a choice of line to take if travelling on to the West Coast from Chicago[^].What it must have been to be retired and rich in those days for a railfan[wow][yeah].
Some more photos with a North East of England theme[tup].
The first three are of Lambton Hetton & Joicey Colliery 0-6-2 No. 5 built in 1909 by Robert Stephenson & Hawthorn Co. at their Darlington Works as their works No. 3377.The LH&JR had running powers over some BR lines in the area, No. 5 stopped work in 1969 and was bought for preservation in 1970[tup].
1st photo No 5 is at Levisham on her home railway the North Yorks Moors Railway coupled to what looks like a GWR Inspection Saloon she was hauling, on Pickering to Levisham shuttles on a Gala Weekend. I believe No.5 had just been returned to traffic in the photo after an overhaul[bow]
Two photos of No.5 at Grosmont, which is the junction from the NYMR to the BR Middlesborough to Whitby line.
I see Pete made it back with a fine foto spread to cheer up the afternoon crowd . . .
which also frees me up to employ the You Post, I Post idea . . . [swg]
What the heck - why not Back to Back from Back in the Day [?]
Now Arriving on Track Number One
Back in the Day
Number Nine - The NYC Twentieth Century Limited
The 20th Century Limited was an express passenger train operated by the New York Central Railroad from 1902 to 1967, during which time it would become known as a “National Institution” and the “Most Famous Train in the World.” In the year of its last run, The New York Times
The usual round of Tuis for all the guys please Leon.[yeah]
Tom. Many thanks for your extended birthday greetings[:I], I think it is now time to put the clock in reverse mode from now on, never thought id reach the 70s, seems unbelievable to me![;)] Those NZ posters you posted were new to me (would you believe?), the Dunedin Sunshine Social Club reminded me of the times we spent at the beach at Riverton when we lived down in Invercargill in the 70s, theirs a mini Soundshell there for concerts etc. Wairake is a thermal area at Rotorua, their are geysers, hot mud pools, fumeroles and a big Hot Spring Spa pool complex in the area. Waitomo Caves are commonly known as the "Glow-worm" caves, very popular with tourists they have cave white water inner tube rides there as well. Very interesting BITD #8 on the PRR "Broadway Limited" with the pix, pamphletsand book cover, and BITD #9 on the NYC RR “Twentieth Century Limited” with the pix ,those Dreyfuss Art Deco styled 4-6-4 Hudsons were nice looking machines. E-mail update received with thank`s.[:)][tup][tup]
Eric. Many thanks for your birthday wishes, looks like its time to wind back the clock now, 73 is looking VERY high numberwise![;)] Some fine pix from the Orange Empire Railway Museum from you.[^] I`ll leave it in your capable hands to keep Vito under control.[;)][tup]
Fergie. Many thanks for your birthday wishes, birthdays` seem to come around so quickly nowadays.[sigh] Cool pic of your MESS Rly official coffee mug.[:)][tup]
CM3. Many thanks for your kind birthday wishes, I had just enough Tui`s and wine
Leon, I would like a #5 with fries and a cold Tui, please!
A rainy evening her in the desert. At least for a while, a storm passed over our part of the city and dumped a lot of water andhad a lightning show at the same time. We all survived.
Fergie – Hope we will see a photo of your locos when you have painted them![yeah] Something to look forward to.[:)] That book, Trackside Grand Trunk sounds interesting.
Tom – That plaque is very nice and interesting to look at.[wow] Study all the heralds in detail. I’ve never seen it at any other place or in any ad. Almost like one of a kind. [:)]
What do you mean? Wait for page 36 before we will learn what happened the Can-Am County Olympic Swimming Team?[oops] That is not fair![] Was it Vito?[?]
I know what you can do to cover Pete’s afternoon portion here at the bar, just cancel his trip! Or make sure he is bringing a laptop! Helga will be happy to carry it for him! [yeah]
Very nice photo of the GG1 hauling the Broadway Limited![tup] Interesting info on the Broadway Limited! I guess that was the first train with a telephone for the passengers![:)]
Sad story about NYC streamlined train sets in Art Deco style.[sigh] All scrapped! That is a crime![|(]
Here is another photo of RTL #158 coupled to the X2000 when it was first tried in the fall of 1992. In this photo #158 had not yet been
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Friday’s Grin
Lines To Make You Smile
I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
G’day Gents!
And the end of another work week has rolled ‘round. Order yourself a or breakfast - grab a pastry from the case ‘n fill up those coffee mugs! [tup]
Comments from the Proprietor
An explanation: The “You Post, I Post” idea came about when it occurred to me that I was making many submissions to “myself.” In other words, too many “back to back” Posts. It seemed logical to wait until someone came by before dropping off a Post of my own <not counting the AM acknowledgments or “specials,” of course>. So, if nothing happens ‘round here during the daylite following my AM submission - the entire day will be a wash. The cycle begins anew the next day, etc., etc.
That’s one of the reasons I’ve encouraged daylite Posts, as nite submissions most times receive comments from me the next morning . . . get it [
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; cofee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. We had a violent, albeit short-lived thunderstorm last night. Simultaneous lightning and thunder for about 20 minutes so you know it’s close by. This one came out of nowhere. Can’t wait to see what happens today as the percentage is fairly high for additional rain. The K9 Korps is about ready for therapy.
Pete was by wth pictures and information as well. Nice picture of the NER 0-6-0.
Eric - P Company had phones on several of the trains in the Northeast Corridor. The “Congressional” is one that I recall. We deal with metal situation by knowing the guards - funny how nobody wants to see the scar (lol).
Allen - Remember, it’s only a number, it’s only a number.
OSP - Broadway returns along with the Century. Others have commented on the list of connections in the pamphlet. Only two of the names on that list survive today. Had the good fortune to ride the Broadway in a bedroom suite one time - excellent trip! Car was the “Elberton.” The consist also included a twin-unit diner which was something different.
Broadway remained all Pullman aftter the Century, as Lucius said, “Became profaned with coaches.” Interesting part about that was that Century lost passengers to the Broadway after that happened. Both of the books you included in your post are good ones, as you know.
Subscriptions to the Menor Gazette? No doubt payable in Confederate bonds.
Friday at the Bar by the Ballast ‘n all’s well <of course, we strive to make it BETTER-er!> [swg] Good to see Shane “in” on this fine day in mid-continent USA where the temps continue to amaze <mid-80s predicted - fair skies!>
Here’s a submission from our sub-basement archives room to tickle the fancy of Pennsy luvers! [yeah]
The Passenger Railroad Fallen Flags of “Our” Place #11
Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR)
<A form of this was initially Posted on28 Sep 2005*, Page 120 at “Our” Place I>*
Good morning Ruth , an extra large spiked coffee and a number three if you don’t mind.I’ll leave a twenty for afternoon rounds for the boys as well as the coal scuttle seems well stocked again this morning [tup] One wicked day of storms yesterday really was a “wash” on the upside with all the T-storms we haven’t ahd to wash either car this summer[:D]
**Tom-**lots o good stuff from you yeaterday and today.Covered two of the most loved and revered RR’s to the Our Place people.I see that teh costs of things in teh Mentor Villiage are still stuck in that time warp,I suspect that Shane’s right that a subscription could be had using Cobfederate notes ( somehow I think Vito still prints them )We’ll have to look into that flag though
Seems with a bit of digging by our roving reporters and Inspector Clueless,that the object of your affection ( or infection depending [:O] )seems to have dual citizenship so expect to see her as often as me,I here that the cleanliless level of the second class has been drastically improved since her hiring.The last food critic to visit survived only with a mild bout of Montezuma’s Revenge.
**Eric-**Interesting shots from the Orange Empire Museum ( another site to see on my bucket list [tup] )Intereior shot was of the x2000 [?]
**Pete-**More great photo’s yesterday sir [tup] Loved em [tup] I wouldn’t want to even begin tothink what a non-enclosed cabbed steam engine would have been like on the Praires or the North of Scotland.I did talk to a fellow at teh Elgin County Museum in St Thomas a few years back who was retired from teh CN
A bit of activity ‘n some free time at this end makes for a happier bar! Remember, put on a Happy Face! [:)]
Good to see our Manager - missed a day, which of course means a smaller dipper on pay day! And by the by - you DO NOT get another dipper for being the Edtior! You’re getting just like our Bar Chandler - always conniving . .
Here’s something not seen before at our digs . .
Named Passenger Trains
from the Classic Era - Number Three
New YorkCentral Railroad (NYC)
Caveat: This list is for the enjoyment of those frequenting “Our”
Apols for the absence, I’ll get polishing my own bar stool I think! Pint of Kimberly Mild and a round for the house please. Looks like I’ve missed some birthdays so extra beer orders for those that are due them!
I’ve at least had a chance to review some of the posts recently, even though been unable to post. Esp nice continuing selection of Brit pics Pete!
As I attempt to turn to people queries on my trip report -
Pete. Well 186 mph does not feel like it - they are very smooth running trains - you only really get a sense of it when you ruin alongside the motorway and see cars doing 60 - 70 mph and they look like they are dawdling as you race by! I never visited Ashford works (and sad now that Eastleigh has closed more or less). Any highlights you can recall from that visit to Ashfordworks you mentioned?
Eric - interesting to read of your cat rescue exploits - like most Brits are supposed to have, I have a soft spot for animals! Yes, on my trip report I was comparing the food with transatlantic airline food of course, not the domestic ‘free bag of peanuts’ offer!
Rob - glad you liked the World War One cemetery links (you will have noted the bit about Vimy ridge, which as I recall has special resonance for Canadians. I’d actually tried to find pics of the grave yards near the line but could not find any links to them - no doubt it is out there somewhere on the website.
You and Heather may find this link of interest - the official body that maintains the sites:
Tom - got to say I particularly enjoyed your UKposter selection a few pages back. Thanks also for the link back to the pertinent Eurostar pictures - that is the way it was!
Just caught your NYC post - I’ll get back to it. Those *** in my last post were not course language. Just the sysetem seemd to switch them in! Who knows.
TOM Many thanks for the NYC 20th Century Limited to rival to the PRR’s Broadway[tup][tup][tup]. 60 MPH is a very good average with steam power over such a distance of 960 miles[bow]. Although the NYC seems to have the easier graded route the PRR line was 60 miles shorter. As Eric said it was a pity all of the streamlined train sets were cut up for scrap.
Thanks for the cover of the Grand Trunk book[tup].
It is hard to think of a worse punishment for a ‘Tweeting’ than the one Fergie nearly got[:O][:)].
Hopefully I can find some cyber cafes in the UK so will be able to call in at he bar[tup] but with the time difference it may be at odd times[sigh], seeing my record with cameras[:O] I don’t think a laptop would have a long life accompany me on the travels[:)].
Thanks for the kind words on the photos[tup]; I am waiting on some details on the locomotives in my Tanfield Railway photos another preserved industrial line in the North East of England.
‘Moderation’ is my middle name [:-^][:)].
Many thanks for Pennsylvania Railroad Fallen Flag[^][tup]. I see the PRR did not lose too much track in the years between 1950 and 1962[^], I bet it was different in the next 12 years[:(].
I had a look and out the 254 electrics in 1963 the PRR had in 139 were GG1s[^]. I see the PRR had 4 named trains that r
My, my - it appears the have answered the “call”! [bow] A fine turn out on this Friday, so much so that a mid-day round of acknowledgements AND cheer is in order! Boris, ring the bell - Ruth, fill ‘em up for the boyz! [tup] [swg]
Customer Acknowledgments(since my last narrative):
Friday - August 15th :
Page 7 - CM3 Shane at8:14 AM____: “In” with a ROUND ‘n quarters - “out” with a bit of commentary. Always a pleasure having our man in WVA aboard . . . [bow] [tup]
Confederate Bonds are redeemable at Vito’s Second National Bank ofMentorVillage____. Hmmmm.
And yes, the books on the Broadway Ltd ‘n 20th Century Ltd are indeed . . . fotos are terrific evidence of what it was like for the traveler back in the day. Ahhhhhhhh.
Back again RUTH so I will try another Bathams please[tup].
TOM Yes I bet the Barriger Library would have all the information on those lines in the 1950s.[tup].With the increase in frieght traffic and passenger travel increasing as well, I would think that a lot of railroad managers wish they had some of the capacity there was available in the 1950s today.[yeah].
Even the short time I have been over here I can tell this August is unusual, at this time it seemed in previous years the main worry was the heat and the lack of rain.[yeah].
Moderation in all things[tup], apart from Bathams[:D]
A few Great Western tank engines.[tup]
0-6-0 Pannier Tank No. 9466. A F.W.Hawksworth 1947 design for heavy shunting the majority of this class was introduced in BR days. Behind 9466, in the loco yard at Bridgnorth on the Severn Valley Railway, is ex LMS Jinty No 47383 with the corridor tender of A4 No. 60009 Union of South Africa to the rear of 47383, to the right is a class 08 diesel-electric shunter. In 1958 No. 9466 worked off Worcester shed.
2 At Totnes BR station GW 4575 class 2-6-2T introduced in 1927 No 4588 is running round the train she has brought from the Dart Valley Railway. In 1958 4588 was a Penzance engine.
3 Taff Vale Railway of South Wales 0-6-2 No 85. Built in 1899 No.85 was sold by the GWR
Yes, leon, it is me! Yes, that would be fine. Medium, please and lots of mushroom! Tui!
An almost cool day today! Barely 100˚, maybe 101 or 102 at the most. I had an interesting evening late last night. Somebody, 6+ ft tall, tried to steal one of our cars but run away when I came out. He managed finally to steal another car down the street. Called the police but they couldn’t make it here in time.
Tom – Are you telling me I have to subscribe to the “Mentor Village Gazette” in order to find out what happened?[|(] That is kind of dangerous.[yeah] Vito is sending a couple of his “helps” to collect the money every time it’s due, no receipts!
So Pete needs a laptop that fits in his black bag?[wow] Hmm. That means it has to be soda-… I mean waterproof, considering everything he drops into that bag.[oops] I don’t know if there is such a thing as a waterproof laptop?[:-^]
Thanks for the nice words about my photos![tup] I have been saying for a long time that I have to go through all my old slides from years back and scan whatever may be of interest. Maybe I’ll have time to do that after October 30.
I am afraid that you are right about scrapping locomotives and cars during the classic time. Cut it up![|(]
Rain in the desert is something you have to expect this time of the year, thanks to the monsoon. Often it comes with some pretty violent storms. The storm last week had wind gusts of up to 64 mph and a lot of damage. Power poles, roofs, etc. Last night wasn’t that bad.
The usual round of Tuis for all the guys please Leon![yeah]
Eric. Am going to forget about those year numbers from now on.[;)] Interesting pix of the RTL and your X2000 coupled together, the “basement” shot in the Superliner car, and the 0-6-0 switcher and limax at the LA County Fairplex.[^] Pity that the cops didnt catch that car thief, at least you stopped him stealing your closer neighbour`s car.[:)][tup]
CM3. Will just have to be philosophical about those numbers from now on.[:)] Interesting info on your ride on the Broadway Limited.[:)][tup]
Rob. Hope those storms you were having have abated by now.[?] Its good that those short lines over there have such a variation in colour schemes for their locos for the train fans photo benefit.[yeah][:)][tup]
Dan. Good to see you back. The most vivid memory of my projectionist days was when we showed the Al Jolson Story, by the end of that week I could recite most of the talking parts and sing all of Als songs off by heart![sigh] Good link to the Gare Du Nord and a good description of the services and train workings there.[^] An interesting link to the Commonwealth War Graves Commision.[:(][:)][tup]
Pete. You are so right quoting that "moderation’ word![;)] Some more immaculate GWR tank loco pix from you, all “keepers” that’s for sure.[^] Looking forward to those Tanfield photos coming up, its a pity that I never got to see the Tanfield Museum or B
Good evening Leon , just a cold Keith’s for me,and a round for the gang as well if you don’t mind.
**Tom-**Great info on the NYC maned trains [tup][bow] good stuff to keep the informed [tup] Oh and as I said before I lost her to Mike up there in the Mountains,she’s his problem now ( an elegant solution for the both of us )Besides. CSIS and Boarder guards up told her she’s personna non grata due to her need to cling to the side of trains.[:-^] Vito’s bankers do the whole money thing quite well they keep themselves ready for anything,you may evenitually find that they will give you a good deal on your "reb bucks "
Nice to see the gang answer the bell today as well [tup]
**Pete-**Some fine looking tank loco’s and steam switchers sir [tup] I don’t think I want to see you with a laptop,I’m sure it wouldn’t get along with the black bag anyway.Your welcome,enjoy the weather while you have it.
**Dan-**Good to see you in with a “two fer” thnaks for the link we have both spent sometime navigating it [tup] Yes Vimy is a very important part of Canadian Military History.There are not many in this country who couldn’t tell you it’s story even now 91 years on.Interesting to see that parts of Europe (Germany) are still going with the sleeper trains.
**Eric-**Nice couple of photo’s loved the Climax [bow]
**Allan-**Yes the storms have subsided ( for now ) it’s been a very wet summer this year.The ducks I’m sure are enjoying it.[sigh] still it will bring all the lake levels back up so in the long run it’s a good thing.
] Was it Vito?[?]
Pennsylvania Railroad (PRR)
New York Central Railroad (NYC) 
