<CB&Q Zepher at MoT, Kirkwood, MO - personal foto>
G’day Gents!
Saturday at the Saloon by the Siding ‘n time for a kick-back breakfast. No hurry - no rush, just enjoy our or breakfasts, fresh coffee ‘n pastries! [yeah]
Customer Acknowledgments(since my last narrative):
Friday - August 15th :
Page 7 - Pete at4:14 PM____: Back as promised with a fine spate of fotos w/narratives of course! [bow] My favorite is the water tower shot! [yeah]
Appears this “moderation” thing has caught on - so now, you’ll have another “title” - Sir Moderation! [wow] Yeah, tell it to the moon - I’ve been WITH you enuf times to KNOW the rest of the story! [swg]
Every part of the country I’ve lived in has had its peculiarities regarding weather patterns. From New England to Alaska to Virginia - to California - to New York to Missouri to . . . there’s a bit of something for every liking. But ‘round here, well - strap yourself on for a wild ride. This summer
A cup of coffee and a bacon sarnie please CINDY.[tup]
ERIC Glad your car survived the attention of that felon[yeah], as[4:-)] Tom says come and live here in Mo.[tup]
Thanks for the info on the couplers on the X2000[tup].The automatic couplers are a far cry from the old days when some one had to get down on the tracks, put a screw coupling on, tighten it and connect all the pipes.[yeah]
Glad you like the photos[tup]. I too was surprised that the 0-6-2 arrangement was as popular as it was[%-)]. A lot of the South Wales lines had the arrangement and the Great Western built more when those lines became part of the GWR at the Grouping. I would have thought a 0-8-0 tank would have been better. The wheel arrangement was popular as well with companies that became part of the LNER. The Great Eastern and the Great Northern lines of the LNER used 0-6-2 Tanks for their commuter trains into London.
Totnes is in Devon on the Great Western Main line to the West Country between Newton Abbot and Plymouth. The town is on the River Dart and at the bottom of two steep climbs with Dainton Summit to the east and Wrangaton Summit to the west. Totnes is the junction for the preserved line to Buckfastleigh, although the trains off the preserved line do not use the BR station nowadays, the junction as been used for the occasional special onto the line.[^]
Many thanks for the photos, details and link to the Southern California Chapter of the R&LHS[tup][tup][tup]. They have some great locomotives, including a Big Boy and a UP Centennial diesel.[bow]. I would dearly love to visit Pomona one day[yeah]<
A super fine day here in mid-continent USA where the skies are friendly, temps tolerable ‘n precip zero! Got some work done outdoors ‘n now it’s time to relax <nearly 2 PM at “typing time” . . . [swg] Juneau is in bliss when outside - just loves lying in the shade watching “his people” work . . .
If not for Pete, this Post would be awaiting a customer. [bow] It’s “You Post, I Post” ‘round the Saloon by the Siding . . . no more back to backs, except for those special occasions!
So, here’s a selection not seen at any of our bars . . .
Time for a Bathams please CINDY[tup] to celebate another win by the Mighty Shrews[bow][^].
TOM It is indeed pleasant outside today really great for mid August[^][tup].
Many thanks for the great selection of Classic Drumheads by the Dozen[tup][tup][tup]. I must admit I do like the design the Wabash had and I think the City of Kansas City is another winnner[tup]. I have to ask about the UP Old Timers Special, I wonder if it referred to the locomotive hauling the train or the passengers.[?]
On the tank engine theme, I have some photos of the largest of the BR Standard tank engines the 4MT 2-6-4s designed at Brighton and introduced in 1951.In my view these were a handsome class of loco and luckily quite a few of them found their way to Barry Scrapyard and were saved for preservation.[tup].
In the first photo I was on a tour from Leicester to London which traveled via Oakham, the Welland Viaduct, Bedford and on to the West Coast Main line at Bletchley where the photo was taken. The locos Nos. 80079 and 80098 had come off the train and was heading to take water.
Another trip behind a Standard 4 tank was a tour from Derby to Skegness and back, this time with No 80080. I think DL will know the location of this photo[tup], near the site of Trent station heading for Derby.
Pete’s been back with some fine fotos! [tup] Specific comments in my next round of acknowledgments - but do appreciate your two-fer on this Saturday! [bow] As has been the practice - it’s just us-uns in daylite ‘round here on Saturdays . . .
Anyway, here’s one from my sub-basement archives - NOT seen for a long, long time . .
PASSENGER RR FALLEN FLAG & NOSTALGIA
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Was lloking at one of these puppies on E-bay today
There was quite a write up on these in “Classic Trains” a year or two ago. Very impressive and very capable!
Re: TWEETING! Mmmmm
Tom… Need I say more
Peter: More Picks! Thank you. You’ll have to have the remainder of the Keg there my friend as the War Department and I are off to Tatagamouche for the Week and will not be able to imbibe here.
Leon, you are working way too much! Yes, I feel sorry for you! No, just a cold Keith’s, please!
As usual for Saturdays this Saturday turned out shorter than normal days! Never time enough to finish everything on my agenda.
Allan – That is good, forget those numbers, just remember something around 30 if someone is asking your age! [;)]
I was not sure what that guy really was doing, but when I saw him use a small flash light to check the door on that car down the street I finally understood that he was going to break into it. So I went inside the house to get my cellphone and car keys. When I came back outside both the car and guy were gone! I had no clue which way he went. [|(]
Rob – I think it is easier to find an operating Shay today than a Climax. It is just a feeling I have. [:)]
Tom – Is the Gazette a daily paper? If so it must be pretty thick with at least 36 pages! I am sure Vito is the one behind it.[:-,]
We are going to relocate when I win the powerball![yeah] Since the shooting last year it has been very quiet in this area. But since I moved here in 92 we have had two of our cars stolen from the driveway. We got the truck back after two days, but Pam’s SUV disappeared for good. That was five years ago.[sigh]
I think I pass on your winters. It is impossible to love anything that cold (near zero). But thank you for the offer to look for a place. [:)]
Leon, the usual round of Tuis for all the guys please![yeah]
Rob. Good to hear those storms have passed over now. Enjoyed the colourful collection of diesel locos` you posted on the other thread, we have a Tellus here at home, not as big as that one though![:)][tup]
Pete. Lovely shot of the Tanfield Rly , that restored clerestory roofed carraige looks a beauty.[wow] My bride really enjoyed the Beamish tour, she brought back a photo of the old Stanley Co-op store they relocated there, used to go in to it BITD doing messages for my Aunt who lived at Oxhill just out of Stanley.[sigh] Will have a look on the net for that Dudley Black Country Living Museum. Some really fine pix of those BR 4MT tank locos, they are one of the best looking tank locos` around.[:)][tup]
Fergie. Hope you manage to find one of those “puppies” on E-Bay soon.[:)][tup]
Eric. At least you frightened that guy away from your place.[^] A fine set of pix from Pomona of the Big Boy, DDA40X, SP2 4-10-2 and SF Class3450 Hudson. 30 looks a very well rounded number to me.[:)][tup]
Tom. One of my school mates used to do a good take off of Al Jolson , with the face make up, white gloves and baggy suit he was very realistic.[swg] Fine Classic Drumheads by the Dozen #8, a very colourful and varied collection, and also the Passenger RR Fallen Flag and Nostalgia on the MKT RR, had a double take at those cheap meal prices in the dining cars in those days, but I suppose the prices are all relative to the incomes` of that period of time.[:)][tup]
Good evening Leon,the usual round of Keith’s if you don’t mind.
**Tom-**Fine looking stuff from you today,neat info on the Katy and a vey fine spread of drumheads.Like Pete I do like the Wabash one’s they just have the right “look” to them [tup]
I’m sure that our mutual friend is happy in Mike’s arms ( well one of them,she was big but he’s much bigger so they are a match made… well somewhere ) I’m sure that our gals ( H&H ) should be able to handle any shinanigans she may pose at this falls pt 3 of the grudge match.
I guess we are luckey in that there has been a real resergance in history and more importantly candain history the last ten or so years.Veterans affair’s and the school boards have been pairing up Vets and kids quite successfully the last few years which has helped,that and the History Network has put out alot of really fine documentary material on both world wars and Korea
**Pete-**Loved the photo’s,though I’m not a tank engine fan they just seem to be right at home in those photo’s ( they look much nicer than the class 66’s )
So let me get this straight,the black bag did away with two digital cameras,so it’s a serial killer then [?] Perhaps smoke signals then to keep in touch, since we obviously can’t trust any high tech stuff to survive the “black death” [:-^]
Fergie- A fine looking beastie,good luck on winning it [tup] I’ve had fair sucess with ebay both buying and selling,I don’t make a long term habit of it though,but sometimes it’s the only way to get stuff.Any luck with the other engine on getting some of your cash back [
<IT Rail bus at MoT,Kirkwood____,MO- personal foto>
Reminder: “Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAYs
<but go ahead ‘n slip your messages thru the mail slots on the doors!>
G’day Gents!
Yes, “Our” Place is CLOSED on this day meant for rest. But, we’ll be back in full swing tomorrow at 6 AM <all time zones - don’t ask how we do that!> [tup]
Realizing this is Sunday and all I’ll supply the Java and other Sundries as required. Yes I normally don’t post on a Sunday, however as stated last night, We will be headed for Tatamagouche for the week and away from all electronics as of Tomorrow a.m.
So I thought i would clear up some busy~mess before departing[:-^]
I’m sorry Tom but…
" I thought I thawd a Tweeting Bird…
I DID, I DID!!"
Sorry[swg] Couldn’t resist
Anyway
Allan, Eric and Rob to answer your questions
This is a B&O “Big Six” 2-10-2. There was an excellent story in the 2006 Summer edition of Classic Trains on these beasts! A total of 125 were built S1 and S1-a and had a Tractive Effort of 84,300 lbs and 64" Drivers.
Did a search on the internet last night and photos were scant to say the least.
Eric: Nice Photos, kinda puts the whole size thing in perspective. The 4-10-2 is a handsome one for sure. Yes I’m partial to 2-10-2’s, 2-10-4’s and 4-10-2’s. If I do aquire this this 2-10-2 tha
Well good evening folks I’m enjoying the left over spiked java Fergie left behind you could remove paint with that[xx(] hmmm an extra finger or four of CR should fix that right up[:-^] As always Sunday night paperwork clearing time.What we need is an industrial sized shredder. No Boris Queenie is not going to come here to do it , the bars off limits to her You never should have flashed those pictures Tom , you know how easily swayed Boris can be, he’ll be up to all hours now creating inflatables in the shed.
**Tom-**Two grrreat flicks [tup] love them both 5x[tup]should make for a good week at the Emporium.The black eyes should build charactoer up there in the mountain villiage.I didn’t htink that they had a constabulary as we know it up there.[%-)]
Unfortunatly you are right about military,still here’s hoping that it does change for the better and more people end up giving a patoot. Speaking of which 2010 is the 100th aniversary of the formation of the RCN,more useless trivia from moi but it’s important to me.[^]
The navy’s first ship HMCS Niobe a Diadem class armoured cruiser,one of the few things to more or less survive the Halifax explosion in 1917,although she never again went to see after that.
<IT Rail bus at MoT,Kirkwood____,MO- personal foto>
A smile to begin the week!
"A slipping gear could let your M203 grenade launcher fire when you least expect it. That would make you quite unpopular in what’s left of your unit." - Army’s magazine of preventive maintenance.
G’day Gents!
What’s to say, other than it’s Monday ! Soooooooo, you know the routine - coffee ‘n pastries are fresh! Menu items are ready for orderin’ … [tup]
Comments from the Proprietor
REMINDERS:
RR Book Relay 2008 is presently in westWaleswith Nick . . . next on the list is Shane in WVA , followed by Rob in Ontario then Allan in NZ! [tup]
Good Morning Barkeep and all Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Cool weather here this a.m. but it is supposed to get warmer later today. Eyes are to the south at present - believe me, we do not need any more rain here for awhile!
Rob was in with comments. Shays are alive and well here at Cass, including western Maryland 6, the biggest of ‘em all. Niobe and Rainbow - excellent pictures. I must resurrect my copy of Conway’s Guide to Fighting Ships from that period - I am sure they are in there. Anyway, a nice reminder of the days when belching smokestacks symbolized progress and power.
DL - I enjoyed reading the additional details about your trip.
Pete - The Tanfield picture was interesting. Can you tell us any more about the passenger car in the photo? It reminded me of 1860-era cars over here, only a bit fancier. The 2-6-4T is an interesting beast.
The “Water Level Route - You Can Sleep” was a long-running advertising slogan used by the New York Central. This was done to contrast their route to the PRR which went over the mountains. The Boston and Albany was the rugged section of the NYC, although the Central traversed some rough terrain in WV and parts of Pennsylvania as well.
New England Wolverine and Wolverine were separate trains, IIRC.
Almost forgot your Broadway question. Power was E8s and GG1s as we went from Chicago to New York. It was part of a circle trip which covered most of the eastern part of the country.
NCB - I remember them well as they had some good safety material which could be adapted to American concerns.
I imagine that your black bag would “eat” a laptop without even breaking a sweat.
Eric - Sounds as though you have been having fun in your neighborhood. We celebrated Y2K in a similar manner which involved a knife fight, police cars a
Morning Ruth , just my usual morning fare. A number three and some decent spiked coffee. [tup]
**Tom-**Did you see the ominous glow on the horrizon from the direction of the Mountain Villiage [?] To make matters worse Boris said he thought it was pretty, which can’t be a good thing.[V]
Shane-Back in the saddle again eh [?] hopefully this means that they’ve finished spraying your roof with all those awfull roofing chemicals.
We’ll have to make another run to Cass at some point ,one can never get enough of wonderfull old geared locomotives doing their thing in their natural environment.[tup] I’m not sure if they do it anymore ,but at one point you could order prints of ships photo’s from the RCN’s website,if you are interested.
There is something about pre World War One warships, they just have that look that I’ve always loved ( belching smoke not withstanding ) Sounds like an interesting book that you have,one can only guess how many body parts it would cost to get one now.
Lets see Boris since you’ve got the critters sqaured away help yourself to that jar of PPF over there, it’s a fresh new one, the packer has said that it’s an improved brine , and that it has 50% more knuckles as well. Bon apetite [tup]
So a couple photo’s to start the week off with.
One of the museum’s earlier aquisitions. Old Toronto railway Company single truck semi convertible 1704 ( 1904 build ) seen here as Grinding
A fair start to the work week here at the Saloon by the Siding as our WVA 'n Ontario Connections have dropped off their pick-us-ups! [bow] Good to see ya both. [yeah]
Comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . . [tup]
A highlight of my rail travels is my 2005 trip to Dallas for perhaps the best single day I’ve experienced riding steel rails on steel wheels. Commuter rail trips - light rail ‘n trolleys were packed into a most memorable experience.
A former customer of “Our” Place, Dick Watkins, knew of my enthusiasm for Budd Rail Diesel Cars . In discussions at the bar and by Email, he offered to provide a tour of the Trinity Rail Express facility west of Dallas along with a round trip aboard an RDC.
What is particularly noteworthy is the RDCs <13> operated by TRE are former VIA Rail units that were purchased by *DART <*DallasArea Rapid Transit> for refurbishing in Montréal by Alstom/ANF in 1996 at their facility. I saw several of those units in Halifax during a Christmas visit in 1991, which were vestiges of the curtailed service to Yarmouth to the south and Sydney to the north.
I flew to Dallas for a one-day adventure that still “lives” in my memory as one hulluva day!
Not a proper post - mostly a message for Pete - but I’ll leave a round for the house to make up for it. Pete - I went for a wlak alon the Trent and Mersey Canal on Sat starting at Fradley Jct - pub there for narrow boaters on the canal was selling Holden’s seasonal brew I think (Golden Promise?) - great stuff. So I’ll have a pint of that. Thought you’d want feedback on that brew!
Am I correct in thinking that you are planning a UK trip soon - if so do you want to e-mail me off site in case we can organsie soem sort of mini UK ‘our place get together’ - midlands based - if Da Boss will sanction such a thing of course!!
Back soon as I can with more Paris info and more comment on others posts, which I’ve just scanned through but noted all the regulars seem to have been in!
TOM Many thanks for the Fallen Flag on the KATY from the official guide to Railways from 1956.[tup][tup][tup] I noticed there was quite a price range for the dinner menu.
Yes I was lucky to get the Wooden Bridge to get those photos of 80098[tup], and the sun was just right[^]. Must admit though it was more by luck than good judgment[:)].
Was it Winston Churchill who said, “We were different countries separated by a common language”.[?][:D] Often when asked what beer you want the reply is “I’ll try a so or so beer”[yeah].
Just had my renewal notice for the Mentor Village Gazette from VITO[:O]. It said “You are cordially invited to renew your subscription or ELSE’[:O]. I got in touch with him and told him I had not received any of the MVG from my last subscription[sigh] and VITO replied, " What’s that got to do with it”[?][:D].
Two good films on at the Emporium this week[^][tup], both I have seen but it will be good to see them again[yeah]. The Train is a film is a good film to see again after reading the Steel Rails to Victory RR Relay book seeing the real wartime railways of France. Then, of course the Stooges, just wonder how that gorilla got in the other room[?][:)].
It does indeed look a great day you had in Dallas[wow]. Reading the link to Our Place I it was a very full day with a lot
And our Bar Chandler, Sir Moderation made it in <finally!> - but, it IS Monday after all, 'n we know how difficult it is for the Wolfman to recouperate from being away from the bar for sooooooo loooooong!
Specific comments in my next round of acknowledgments . . .
Time for something from the sub-basement archives . . .
More on the Canadian National Railways from The Official Guide of the Railways - Aug 1956
“Our” Place Passenger Train Nostalgia
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