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Classic Trains General Discussion
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G’day Gents!

Happy Friday to one and all - been a tough 4-day work week for some, eh [?] Why not join us this morning for a great start-up from the Menu Board featuring and breakfasts. A selection or three from The Mentor Village Bakery case and a mug of freshly ground ‘n brewed “Our” Place special blend just to round it all out. [tup] [swg]

SPECIAL NOTE for passengerfan Al: Send me an Email through the Forums, PLEASE!

Looks like I’m back to my regular schedule, whatever THAT happens to be, but for now, Larsman, you may stand down! Many THANX for taking the helm in my absence; much appreciated! [tup]

The talk in these parts, through the local newspaper (aka: bird cage liner) is that the Super Bowl finalists will be the Bears vs Ravens with Baltimore winning (2 out of 5 “experts” see it that way) whereas another has it the Saints vs Chargers with San Diego winning and two others see it as the Eagles vs Chargers with San Diego winning. Go figger! I’m in the “who cares?” department. Let’s go Cardinals (baseball variety)! [swg] Actually, I’m an NFC kinda guy and hope the Bears pull it off - I like the coach.

On to the acknowledgments:

Lars at 3:15 PM yesterday: Still smiling over that remark you made regarding the Zephyrettes and the Gals of “Our” Place - nicely put! [swg] Walkers, indeed!

Been thinking about some of your commentary these past few days and it occurs to me that you have hit on something we should seriously take to heart. The healthy continuation of this cyber bar depends upon dependable people. We’ve had so man

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Hello Tom

This response is for Pete re earlier query, first of all Pete will you join me in a pint of mild of your choice whilst I outline what we shall call the ‘Irish Question’

Called into the model shop here (which is a real great shop, not really a toy shop) anmd asked the chap - he said Bachmann models had at one time done a 00 gauge SR N class in Irish Livery (apparently these locos were shipped from UK in kits of parts to the Republic back in the day) they did soem coaches to match this and sold the thing as a boxed set, no longer in production). he knew of no other irish outline stuff, suggesting the market there was too small to sustain the market and that modellers probably relied on scratch building.

Seems a shame to me, esp since even for modern image outline BR Mk2 and Mk 3 coaches in CIE livery would, you migth think, have a market over there.

I don’t know much about Irish railways but pics I have seen show some pretty weird and wonderful designs used over there. I know the more recent GM built locos they use there have a following. I think recently they have bought spanish manufactured designs, which is a shame for the UK industry.

Perhaps some of this Bachmann stuff is available second hand on e-bay?

Hope this helps at least clarify why you did not find much on the web

Regards

DL

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Good Morning Barkeep and All Present; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Warm and rainy here today (53 degrees when the K9 Korps emerged from the kitchen and hit the backyard.) Gas is still at $2.33 when I visited my local truck stop this a.m. on the way to work to pick up the Daily Whizbang (aka USA Today). Must be ships in Norfolk as there were many trucks with shipping containers in the yard today when I stopped.

Lars - Checked in with his daily notes and comments; we’d better be lighting a candle or two for our Gints.

Rob - Appeared with comments and historical material. Mentor, OH - Know it well.

Al visited? Wow!

DSL - Thanks for the trip report

Last (but not least) our ‘Steamed Proprietor is with us! Excellent!

Pete raised a couple of questions which I’ll try and address. Engines were changed back in the day.

Power tended to congregate in certain locations. GE power was handled at one location, for example, and EMD at another. The road that our ‘steamed proprietor will not let us mention here, in fact, assigned locomotives to certain terminals, dictated to some extent by the service in which they were used and by the builder. If you had shop queens or orphan units, they were in many cases assigned to one spot so they could be worked on by folks knowledgeable about them.

In the 60s (maybe a bit earlier for that matter), the Burlington started run-through power. Later, different railroads entered into agreements which allowed power to venture off-line. I remember this well on the L&N seeing Missouri Pacific power (and cabs) on freights. One of my favorite pictures is one I shot of a Chessie-painted U-boat followed by a Conrail GE engine on a westbound mty train on the former C&O.

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Thanks CM3 for the info on the freights - yes some informal names here for merchandise, but the only formal name I know of was the ‘Condor’ - that was running in the early 1960s.

Anyway, I’ll have a pint whilst I post this for Pete:

I see (after some Googling) Hattons Models in Liverpool (famous Liverpool model shop you probably know of, been there since at least the 1950s) seems to have a SR N class in Irish Livery for sale on website:

See this link and go to bottom of page (scroll down) item no H598, at 51 quid (might be second hand, looks in good condition)

http://www.connectstores.com/hattons/sp_785.html

You can contact them

Contact us: Hattons Model Railways,
364-368 Smithdown Road,
Liverpool,
L15 5AN,

Phone +44 (0)151-733-3655
Fax +44(0)151-734-4040

and there is an e-mail link form here at the bottom of their home page if you wanted to ask more about it

http://www.hattons.co.uk/

I guess what we need is an Irish contributor to this site to tell us more about modelling the Irish scene in the classic era! (if we can get a decent Irish Stout on the bar - perhaps something a bit more unusual than Guinness, we may attract one!)

Cheerio all

DL

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G’day Gents!

Just made it, but alas, not before NOON as promised! [tdn] A shame to have my personal life get in the way of running this bar, eh [?]

SPECIAL for passengerfan Al: PLEASE send me an Email via the Forums. We need to resume our comms. THANX!

So where was I [?] Ah yes, acknowledgments . . . .

Rob at 9:37 PM yesterday: The Scourge of the Forums has revisited you! [tdn] Nevertheless, still good to have you with us . . .

Nice to read some traction and signaling “stuff,” which of course provides broader dimensions for our Classic Trains discussions! [yeah]

DL at 7:17 AM & 9:04 AM & 11:36 AM today: An early morning visit from our other-side-of-the-pond Brit! [tup] Nice way to begin the day through a visit to what I hope has become your favorite cyber pub. [swg]

I note that you are still experiencing difficulties viewing the Pix some of us have Posted. I would greatly appreciate knowing of these occasions when they occur. Helps to keep track for my compilations to the people at Kalmbach and of course to ensure that my own Posts have been submitted properly. Thanx! [tup]

Not trying to be a ‘damp rag’ regarding this, however, Posts to passengerfan Al at this juncture are somewhat futile. Until he resumes his position here at the bar, my guess is he’s not reading, but only Posting. However, once he’s back with us, you’ll find at least an equal in knowledge of passenger trains to that which you’ve provided from your corner of the world regarding railways of all stripes. He’s quite the asset, as are you, Sir! [tup]

What an absolute treat to have perused the information regarding the Swanage Railroad and your trip report! Kudos to you, Sir

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G’day Gents!

Here is something from the “It could’ve been us!” department that I thought you would find interesting.

While browsing through my daily check of the CBC web site for news from Canada, this story “jumped out” at me. Read it and what I’ve provided further on, and you’ll understand why!

Please take the time to check out the URL BEFORE reading any further:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/01/04/bc-derailment.html

As many of you know, my wife and I took our 2nd cross-Canada roundtrip a few years ago, departing Toronto on New Year’s Eve 2002 bound for Vancouver. Along the way we encountered an event that undoubtedly will “live” on in our memories for all the years to come.

I have shared this story with you before and it was first Posted on a now “defunct” site I created, then Posted on Page 99 of the “original” Thread back on Sep 9th, 2005. Here are EXCERPTS for your perusal:

[quote]
In December of 2002, my wife and I departed Toronto aboard VIA Rail’s “Canadian” bound for Vancovuer. Having made the round trip once before, but in May, we were exicited about the prospects of a winter voyage across most of Canada.

We were able to book the drawing room suite in the Park Car (Glacier Park) and settled into our seats in the dome as the train pulled out of Toronto’s Union Station. The day was rather gloomy, a bit of light rain and sleet hitting the windows as we wound our way through and out of the city.

The further nort

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G’day Cap’n Tom & fellow travelers at the bar!

Ruth my deAH, a frosty mug of Kokanee brew from BC, and slide those snack trays down my way, wudja please [?] Yes, of course a round for the house, snacks for the critters and a small jar of pickled pig’s feet for our resident cloven-footed Cyclops, Boris!

That’s quite a sobering combining of the CBC article and the excerpt from your 2002-2003 Canada rail journey. Yes, how many times in life could any of us utter the phrase, “If not for (this or that) it cudda been me!” Been there, done that too many times, especially on the rolling decks above 'n below far out at sea. Sobering for sure!

Particular mention to DL for not only returning to the bar, but doing so with such enthusiasm and informative posts. 5-[tup] to you, Sir! [tup] [tup] [tup] [tup] [tup]

Your mention of getting a bona fide Irishman aboard brings to mind that we should also strive to entice an Aussie, and perhaps a Kiwi as well. I’ve had nothing but OUTSTANDING experiences with the guys from “down under” and what a welcomed sight it would be to have a few of 'em join us in the libations and goings on here at “Our” Place. The more the merrier! [tup]

Been an interesting past couple of days as the guys have wound their way back to Mentor Village and this fine establishment located near the main lines of the Can-Am. Makes for the fun and frolic intended and believe me, I’ve spent many an hour in a man’s bar and aside from a few “tussles” here 'n there, have always come out feeling far better than when arrived! [swg]

That wasn’t much of a shopping trip your Mrs. dragged you off on, Tom. Had it been my lady, we’d have had to book a room for the night, just to get an early start for the continuation of what she calls shopping! Some people take this stuff far too seriously, huh [?]

Rob, those Gremlins apparently have found your &qu

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Hi Tom and all.

I’ ll join DL in a Ringwood Best Bitter please RUTH. at 3.8 ABV a nice quaffing beer[^].

ROB Saw your post just before mine yesterday[tup].It was good to see the toolbar back if only for a short time, today my puter keeps going back to the home page for no apparent reason[%-)].

Thanks for the Classic Juice post on the Nichols- Lintern tail-light.There is so much to learn in this great hobby of ours[yeah].

Another Our Place co-incidence[alien], after we were talking about the wig wag signals I read a piece in the January issue of Trains mag which said there are still surviving wig wag signals, probably 15 to 20, in the state of Winsconsin[^].It would be great to see one in operation.

JAMES. I’m afraid I am not too up on the model railway gauge sizes[sigh],but they were a large guage. It would really need a video camera to capture the full atmosphere of the layout this year with the lights in the cars and the locos fitted with sound and smoke with automatic control the locos stopping at stations and to allow other trains to pass[wow][tup].

AL Great to see you in looking forward to your return[tup].

DL Many thanks for the Irish model loco info and links[tup][tup][tup]. The loco at Hattons looks like the one I have. I did try Bachmann and they said the set was discontinued[:(]. On the box they offered two of the coaches as spares.Bachmann refered me to a company that does dis-continued items but they did not reply to my E-mail I sent over a w

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G’day Cap’n Tom & fellow travelers at the bar!

Back again, but only for a brief brew - thanks Leon - and some comments for DL 'n Pete:

Yes, I traveled aboard the “real” California Zephyr on a few round trips from Chicago to the “left coast.” The good news is that the trips were fantastic and never once disappointed us. The not-so-good news is that I wasn’t then and am not now much of a note taker or a photographer when it comes to travel. Just not my style.

So, I’ll try to put together something from memory, but it will fall far short in terms of details and the like that so many others include “naturally.” Thanks for asking.

Good to see ya, Pete and I’ll take one of those “funny looking” brews you’ve been ordering. I’ve sent you a couple of e-mails over the past week, but think you’ve not received them due to your 'puter issues. No problems, just “talk.”

Yes, let’s do what we can to engage some other guys with similar interests and like-minded resolve to carry on in the atmosphere of an adult bar 'n grill setting. Pubs, bars, taverns, saloons - call 'em what you will, but there’s no better place to pass the time than in a gin mill surrounded by a mentally healthy bunch of misfits! [swg]

Gotta run (again)!

Until the next time! [tup]

Lars

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Good evening Leon, I’ll nab a Keith’s and a nice medium rarewith all the fixin’s if you don’t mind.Looks like I have a toolbar again[%-)].At least for this post , oh well I’ll roll with the punches the forum throws my way.

**Lars-**They didn’t really send me any suggestions. She thought that I was running a mac and therefore having some of the same issue’s that Eric was so she suggested alternate Mac friendly search engines,when they found out I was running PC they said they would check to see if it was an issue at their end. Yet to hear back on that one but as it goes it seems to be working at least part of the time.

**Tom-**That was quite the sobering article,and not to worry I’ll get you a couple Blue’s the next time we are riding a train together ( hopefully sooner as opposed to latter ) I have an email question to ask you so I’ll send that out to you latter ( no big thing )Glad you likied the Lintern story. I get asked so often at the museum why the cars have the by-coloured tail lights, most peoples eyes glaze over when you try to explain them.Whatcanyado [?]Hopefully we can entice Blackie to pop by here, he strikes me as an "Our Place " kinda guy or girl.

**CM3-**Great rundown on the power sharing and pooling [tup]a good read to be sure.I’m kinda not supprised that you knew Mentor. Coal minning town [?]

**Dl-**Those were interesting links on that musuem neat read. One begs to wonder why and how Churchills funeral car ended up in the US though[%-)] I’ll aggree with Tom though if and when Al gets back upto speed ( as much as possible ) he is a passenger car/train font of information. I i

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Good morning Captain Tom and Gentlemen!!

Leon, old friend! No, just a cup of coffee if you still have any.

Another (short) work week gone! I missed last night and that gave me a lot of reading for tonight/this morning! I even found a short message from Al!!

Lars – You are absolutely right, this is a great place![yeah] Everyone knows something and together we know quite a bit, learning from each other.[:)]

I think the Larsman family will have a good year 2007 and you will bew able to make it to St. Louis!![:)][:)]

I am looking forward to read about your travles aboard the California Zephyr!

CM3 – You are right about what is deciding what kind of and how much power that will be assigned to a certain train. I worked as a locomotive dispatcher for a year and it is quite a job to figure out how to use available power depending on all circumstances. Mostly there are lists made up ahead of time about what power is supposed to be assigned to what train, but then something happens, a locomtive breaks down, and adjustments have to be made. Not only for one train but for a number of trains.

You mentioned the weather. The fall is a very critical time. When the leafs are coming down along the line, the tracks get very slippery. Especially if it is raining a bit at the same time. That can create a lot of trouble for heavy trains.

I read with great interest your info on power disposition!![tup]

DL – Denver had a very bad snowstorm, blizzard, the week before Christmas. The airport was closed for several days and thousands of people were stuck there. Some made it to the railroad station and managed to get on an Amtrak train. Snowsstorms also affect trains! Switches get full of

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Good morning Tom and friends! I’ll have two light breakfasts please. Sorry I haven’t been in the last few days. The bride has been ill and missing work, and you all know how dead I would be if I didn’t divert my available energies to home management details. Lotsa great stuff posted since my last visit, as usual for you guys. Liked the picture of your dwarf signal James. Here’s one at the IRM:

We have lots of ground level signals. I have their pictures at:

http://www.railimages.com/gallery/RR-Signals?page=1

Hope you’re doing better yourself these days Tom. I’m reading great things about Amtrak ridership being up 91% between Chicago and St. Louis, now that they added the extra runs. I know it’s not “classic” discussion, but perhaps we’ll look back on these times as a turnaround for train transportation in the future. Interesting conversations on the California Zephyr from several here. I’m hoping the IRM gets theirs operational for the 2008 season, and that we might schedule to ride her. If not, we can visit her in barn 9, alongside the Little Joe. What’s this I see? 20-fingers Al in our midst? Excellent! I see Rob is making regular stops these days too. I see he’s trying to get in good with the boss though. A classic juice from a town called “Mentor”. Just too much coincidence there! Good job keeping things going by manager Lars, Pete, CM3, DL and Eric! Hmmm … I believe one of those guys has a birthday coming up this month … like on the 14th … and will be 64 years young? Wonder which one it is …

I’ll have to look at everyone’s page 3 stuff later, as I must run. Please forgive the hasty retreat, but I must get #2 son to Taesoodo and scurry back for more rock removal in ba

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G’day Gents!

Saturday is in full swing here in mid-continent USA with temps dropping, skies cloudy and petrol at $2.20 (rounded) up at “Collusion Corner.” Why not begin this weekend with us by drawing a freshly ground ‘n brewed cuppa Joe from our urns, a or breakfast from the Menu Board and a few selections from The Mentor Village Bakery case. [yeah]

Here is a follow-up to that CN train/rock slide story from yesterday, definitely worth the read: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/01/05/bc-engineer.html

Today is ENCORE! Saturday and don’t let the change between the “old” and “new” Threads confuse you. Just copy whatever it is you want from the “old” - paste it here, then do a “preview” to see if the Pix ‘n graphics came through. If not, you have two ways to reinsert them - do a “right click” on what you want - copy the location data and paste it where you want it. Or go back to the original source and start over. Sounds much more confusing than it is. The key is to “preview” BEFORE Posting - just to make sure that everything shows up as desired.

Let’s get right to the acknowledgments since my last narrative:

Lars at 4:05 PM & 5:10 PM yesterday: Couldn’t agree more with your comments on bringing in guys from Australia and New Zealand. As with you, I’ve never encountered people from that part of the world who weren’t as “genuine” as real leather. Would love to have ‘em! [tup]

Yeah

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ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

Initially Posted on Page 218 at our “original” site

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #56

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Canadian Pacific (CP) from a 1965 advertisement in my personal collection.

We’ll give your holiday a foreign flavor
. . . . . (just north of the border!) . . . . .

Rail away with us through the Canadian Rockies aboard “The Canadian.”

You’ll enjoy spectacular scenery, continental service in the comfort of a Scenic Dome streamliner as you travel the Banff-Lake Louise route between Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver.

It’s a holiday all the way - gourmet dining, tasty budget meals, snacks, all accommodations reserved.

. . . . . . . . . . Canadian Pacific . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . Trains/Trucks/Ships/Planes/Hotels/Telecommunications . . . . .
. . . . . WORLD’S MOST COMPLETE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM . . . . .

Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]

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ENCORE! Saturday - ENCORE! Saturday

Initially Posted on Page 226 at our “original” site

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #61

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Union Pacific (UP) in a 1933 advertisement from my private collection:

The trail to “Wonderland”

Union Pacific serves 15 of our National parks and more of the famous scenic wonderlands of the West than does any other railroad. Plan now to see the west this summer. We suggest:

Zion-Bryce Canyon
. . .Yellowstone-Grand Teton
. . . . . .Rock Mountain-National Parks
. . . . . . . . . Colorado
California and Hawaii
. . . Pacific Northwest and Alaska
. . . . . .Western Dude Ranches
. . . . . . . . .Hoover Dam

All costs are down. Rail fares are the lowest ever offered. Sightseeing rates, hotels, meals - in fact, all expenses are reduced.

. . . . . . . . . . UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .OVERLAND . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
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Hi Tom and all.

A pint of holden’s Golden Glow please LEON and a round dispite the Chiefs losing[:(].

ROB I was surprised too, to read about the wig wags still in use perhaps when Eric goes up to Wisconsin he may be able to find some and get some pics. Thanks for saying about Hattons It does look a great model shop.[yeah].

ERIC Thanks for the link to the Blue Streak[tup] If you can it would be great to hear some tales from your days as a dispatcher[yeah].

Sorry about getting the site of the mines wrong[oops]. Yes that does look like the locos in that article the picture was in black and white so brown sounds right, thanks for finding the pic[tup]. Are you planning to go to the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay when you visit Wisconsin[?]. It is a good museum, I will have a look to see if I have some pics of it.

I,m glad your guardian angel was about at the time of the EMU incident[yeah].

DOUG Hope your bride is fully recover from her illness real soon.

Thanks for the pic of the ground signal, it is of a simular design to the ones used on British railways before the introduction of the color light ones used today.

It is real good to read the Silk Train and Port Arthur encore[tup] An entertaining story of a town versus a railway[yeah].

It would be great if you could meet Tom and I in Chicago[yeah][tup].

LARS Looking forward to your California Zephyr piece[yeah]. Unfortunately I did not get your e-mails but it is working again now. It would be great if you could see you at the rendezvous, but if not we will certainly drink a toast or two

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Good morning Captain Tom and all present!!

A beautiful Saturday! We had some shooting outside here a half hour ago but now it is very quiet. There is an apartment complex next block and that’s where shots were fired.[tdn]

Doug – Glad to see you again, Sir!! Hope the Mrs is doing fine again!!
Nice picture of the dwarf semaphores! 64? Who? Not me, I am just 27++. [:-,]

A good story about David and Goliath! Would have been interesting being there the time when it happened![tup]

Tom – The shed-like structures! That was exactly what I was looking for when I read the article about the latest slide! So there are some structures then.[tup]

You are right, my experience is popping up once in a while in my mind for different reasons and I can still hear that faint sound. Yeah, we can discuss that in May.

Talking about May, I have just started to plan my trip/vacation and I have now included plans to find as many as possible of the wig wags in Wisconsin after the rendevouez. [:)]

Thanks for the two Encores! CP and UP, two great very Classic railroads!![tup]

Pete – After doing some reaearch I know exactly where I can find some wig wags in Wisconsin. I have friends in Baraboo I am going to see and, believe it or not, they have wig wags there! As far as I know they are still in service.

My dispatching days? I’ll see what I can recollect and write down. That was more than 20 years ago. A job that some times was very quiet and other times a living hell. A good job to get an ulcer. [:-,]

It is not that easy to know exactly where those iron mines are located. Narvik is the Norwegian port from where most of the iron ore is shippe

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Good morning Tom and gang. I’ll be having the light breakfast, please. Delighted to hear that both yourself and Pete will make a stopover at Chicago’s Union Station this month, and I’ll be pleased to meet you! You do realize that with such short notice, I will not be able to arrange a parade for y’all, but perhaps you’ll let me buy a few libations before your departure. Looks like Tom provided the only ENCORES yesterday, with some help from Pete. Oh well. We gets what we gets, and it’s usually pretty good even when it’s sparse. Eric blew the whistle on himself, and will be 27+37 (I did the math) on the 14th of this month. Nice pix of the Mid-Continent Museum. Looks like they get a lot of use out of No. 1385. Thanks to ya’ll who wished my bride well. She’s doing a little better.

Here are some classic pix from Chicago:

Every few minutes in the 1950’s, a passenger train arrived or departed one of Chicago’s six major terminals (from east to west - Illinois Central, Dearborn, LaSalle, Grand Central, Union and North Western).

Grand Central was perhaps the most deserving of Chicago’s rail stations to receive historical landmark status and preservation. Unfortunately it also was the first of Chicago’s six major stations to be dismantled. Opened in December 1890, Grand Central began hosting Baltimore & Ohio trains in late 1891 and Chesapeake & Ohio trains in 1903. Both roads stayed at Grand Central until the station was closed after the departures of November 8, 1969. The Chicago Great Western was a long time occupant until the end of its Chicago passenger service in 1956. Grand Central also was home for the Wisconsin Central (Soo Line) for many years until the Soo moved its last remaining pair of trains, the Chicago-Superior/Duluth Lakers, to the Illinois Central Station in 1963

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The bar at “Our” Place

is CLOSED on Sundays!

G’day Gents!

A somewhat gloomy start to Sunday here in mid-continent USA as the drizzle continues with temps in the low 40s, but expected to get into the 50s later on. No snow on the horizon and thus far it has been a rather disappointing season for Juneau! [tdn]

Pull up a stool and enjoy a bit o’ breakfast - bruch - lunch ('til 2 PM)! [tup]

To the acknowledgments:

Pete at 8:13 PM yesterday: Yes, that’s correct 8:13 PM to get a “daytime” Post!! Anyway, yes - it was a pleasure speaking with you again and we’ll be all set for our Chicago trip once I arrange for the ticketing this morning.

Weren’t the Chiefs simply disappointing yesterday [?] I surely expected better of them and thought that they’d “show up” with their “A game.” Apparently the word didn’t get out. [tdn] Was most pleased with Seattle’s win, but the game I’m looking forward to is the Super Bowl. Go Bears! [swg]

You’d think that something - anything - in the form of a warning system would be in place on that stretch of track where the rock slides seem to be so prevalent out in BC. Perhaps something is and the article just didn’t get into it.

Thanx for the flattery through the use of one of my pieces as an ENCORE! [tup]

Eric at 1:25 AM today: Gun shots in and around where one resides is not a comforting thought. Did you find out what was going on [?] Idiots.

Those deflector “sheds” appear to be principally located where

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Hello again guys! Glad you liked the earlier post Tom. Just got lucky on the Chicago Grand Central Station for you, but now that I know you’re interested I’ll be watching for more. Here’s some more stuff:

Pennsy’s finest was the all-Pullman Chicago-New York Broadway Limited. Urged east in steam days by double-headed K4 Pacifics and later by a Loewy-streamlined 4-4-4-4 duplex, the dieselized Broadway was led by Tuscan red E’s, elegantly pin-striped in gold. A-B-A E7’s back the Pullmans into Union Station in 1962, shortly before Broadway’s late afternoon departure time. EMD 5863 still carries the tasteful gold pinstriping, but most units now were getting a simplified single broad stripe. Chicago’s Union Station was the newest of the six major rail stations with a completion date of 1925. Calling Union Station home, in addition to the Pennsylvania Railroad, were the Burlington Route, the Milwaukee Road and the Chicago & Alton (later Gulf, Mobile & Ohio). Competition was keener at Union than at any other of Chicago’s downtown depots. Both the Q and the MILW served up great trains to the Twin Cities, the Pacific Northwest and San Francisco, departing from the same station (although from opposite sides).

Five of the slant-nosed E6A’s built by EMD in 1940 and 1941 hauled passengers for the Illinois Central. On August 17, 1964 the 4003 was the lead unit in charge of #14, the Land O’Corn, as it docked in the IC’s Central station. Central was built for the Columbian Exposition of 1893 and in addition to being home for all of IC’s intercity trains, the Central hosted Michigan Central and Big Four passenger trains (instead of LaSalle) under a long-term lease. In addition the Soo’s Laker worked out of Central